Received: from mail-ig0-f188.google.com ([209.85.213.188]:45421) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XwQlN-0000nj-O5 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2014 23:23:47 -0800 Received: by mail-ig0-f188.google.com with SMTP id l13sf2422307iga.15 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2014 23:23:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=EETxDuk9ehg7tXhcEfA4W/9smZ3hi0s2dB4Ubd9HIcQ=; b=GIdMtD5jbXN9gpZtH50Ynm1gigJeM3ULNV4VdykMQ+hM8M0ULrS66XeeScSxGJhFgQ JtEbniW816B5CAozgv5nz+F+YD7ktYPL4LEwuxYyhnXfz7YyB4Kic70FclOF7l2XntaN b6s8Fxy3ehBVO0p9lZCvQ4yXOoWuHKOyIO3xcnH9lahTabD1QBTmZdroWqlfXy5K8mHG h0OOCCdQYNGQ4uso5ThvOY66WSQV0E7wwZE2J/7d5p38De99F0IGQ75+GKqv98bR3eaM cQieDZIqM34fD4xW1Vm2lBwr2IyzaNiT+wLRwSvIzVFxgC6xzWHwzU6CDrn+UALCmLwP Kb/w== X-Received: by 10.50.43.133 with SMTP id w5mr45800igl.5.1417677819616; Wed, 03 Dec 2014 23:23:39 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.107.130.205 with SMTP id m74ls845017ioi.51.gmail; Wed, 03 Dec 2014 23:23:39 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.67.4.103 with SMTP id cd7mr8206537pad.8.1417677819195; Wed, 03 Dec 2014 23:23:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qg0-x22c.google.com (mail-qg0-x22c.google.com. [2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22c]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t8si5356153qcn.1.2014.12.03.23.23.39 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 03 Dec 2014 23:23:39 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gusni.kantu@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22c as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22c; Received: by mail-qg0-f44.google.com with SMTP id z60so12287981qgd.31 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2014 23:23:39 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.140.31.35 with SMTP id e32mr14554589qge.81.1417677818987; Wed, 03 Dec 2014 23:23:38 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.25.68 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Dec 2014 23:23:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <35446391.KkJEfFDf3X@caracal> From: guskant Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 16:23:17 +0900 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] kapli/maska To: lojban Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113a993ace90dc05095ed683 X-Original-Sender: gusni.kantu@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gusni.kantu@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22c as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gusni.kantu@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --001a113a993ace90dc05095ed683 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2014-12-04 15:37 GMT+09:00 Gleki Arxokuna : > > > 2014-12-04 8:57 GMT+03:00 guskant : > >> It may be off topic, but I've just made a short comment related to those >> experimental gismu, and voted down: >> >> http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/comments.html?valsi=27066;commentid=1461;definition=57041 >> >> "I feel alienation seeing that only American major tribes have their own >> gismu. There are too many tribes in the world to let them occupy the >> limited gismu space. >> > > Not more than {glico}. > It's the same rant about cultural gismu and non regularity of semantic > space covered. > A gismu for "salad" but no gismu for "photo". > > sa'e not the same. Yes, the official gismu has irregularity in cultural gismu, but we could avoid increasing {glico} in experimental gismu. However, the fact is that adding {glico} gismu continues, and someone votes up such {glico} words even after reading my small comment. This movement is the _unconscious_ discrimination that I meant in the previous post. English, as well as other languages, contains cultural irregularity. What I discuss is introducing it easily as experimental gismu even after the rant you mentioned. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --001a113a993ace90dc05095ed683 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


2014-12-04 15:37 GMT+09:00 Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@g= mail.com>:


2014-12-04 8:57 GMT+03:00 guskant <gusni.kantu@gmail.com>= :
It may be off t= opic, but I've just made a short comment related to those experimental = gismu, and voted down:

"I feel alienation se= eing that only American major tribes have their own
gismu. There = are too many tribes in the world to let them occupy the
limited g= ismu space.

Not more tha= n {glico}.
It's the same rant about cultural gismu and non re= gularity of semantic space covered.
A gismu for "salad"= but no gismu for "photo".

<= /div>

sa'= e not the same. Yes, the official gismu has irregularity in cultural gismu,= but we could avoid increasing {glico} in experimental gismu. However, the = fact is that adding {glico} gismu continues, and someone votes up such {gli= co} words even after reading my small comment. This movement is the _uncons= cious_ discrimination that I meant in the previous post. English, as well a= s other languages, contains cultural irregularity. What I discuss is introd= ucing it easily as experimental gismu even after the rant you mentioned.


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