Received: from mail-la0-f62.google.com ([209.85.215.62]:32992) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XwSrx-0004t5-Fx for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2014 01:38:42 -0800 Received: by mail-la0-f62.google.com with SMTP id pv20sf1030963lab.27 for ; Thu, 04 Dec 2014 01:38:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=hxlRbmZXrCL5ZbJ0VKZ+Dvtxf0jm6/tFKH8iUHfinc4=; b=RdOqBsz405t64D3VQZyX9BXFiT5vorDT+hz487U+ZckiPpwDrv4rD9JAkH3vw6/zwh IMELVHrM0+vO7ZWts1ajHRCHgBQvKkqNKIDrmorPFdjiM6qp9E7RuxMqJBtzrXl9CiXQ +LhubHBURQFpYJOwU/hAUeU2YHDeGx+y5boeJk78s+AnQ4YggMrbFI930fMuQ934xsaw Zs7crO/cFo8XLACzSi/eLb/lpvGXE5JiiYiLMS4HZv+0XgpIlJVjeNDJH8pdzunzd9dj 17wBbE6TTBxyX6Pnm6IO6vhN2ny+OXgAlaj6akXi7sgKdEojWjlxO2mStgQ8X9mG33WR YUng== X-Received: by 10.180.76.238 with SMTP id n14mr342904wiw.15.1417685914411; Thu, 04 Dec 2014 01:38:34 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.88.170 with SMTP id bh10ls2337626wib.19.canary; Thu, 04 Dec 2014 01:38:34 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.194.104.227 with SMTP id gh3mr10645wjb.7.1417685914001; Thu, 04 Dec 2014 01:38:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wg0-x22b.google.com (mail-wg0-x22b.google.com. [2a00:1450:400c:c00::22b]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id by17si463565wib.3.2014.12.04.01.38.33 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 04 Dec 2014 01:38:33 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::22b as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c00::22b; Received: by mail-wg0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id l18so22361172wgh.2 for ; Thu, 04 Dec 2014 01:38:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.249.232 with SMTP id yx8mr14620753wjc.1.1417685913897; Thu, 04 Dec 2014 01:38:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.87.229 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Dec 2014 01:38:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 12:38:33 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] pragmatics of {lo se nei} From: Gleki Arxokuna To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c2a3164d1423050960b92a X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::22b as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --001a11c2a3164d1423050960b92a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 {lo nei} is quite useful, e.g. {li lumci lo nei}. Any useful examples of {lo se nei}, {lo te nei} etc.? Of course one could say * {lo se nei cu lumci mi} = useless *{mi klama lo te nei la bastn} = why not {ri}? However, are there any pragmatic examples where {lo SE nei} would create conciseness or would be highly desirable? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --001a11c2a3164d1423050960b92a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
{lo nei} is quite useful, e.g. {li lumci lo nei}.
Any = useful examples of {lo se nei}, {lo te nei} etc.?
Of course one c= ould say=C2=A0
* {lo se nei cu lumci mi} =3D useless
*{= mi klama lo te nei la bastn} =3D why not {ri}?

How= ever, are there any pragmatic examples where {lo SE nei} would create conci= seness or would be highly desirable?


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