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Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 17:56:50 -0300
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Subject: Re: [lojban] pragmatics of {lo se nei}
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On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>
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> {lo nei} is quite useful, e.g. {li lumci lo nei}.
>

"mi lumci lo nei" is "I wash washers/the washer", right?


> Any useful examples of {lo se nei}, {lo te nei} etc.?
> Of course one could say
> * {lo se nei cu lumci mi} = useless
> *{mi klama lo te nei la bastn} = why not {ri}?
>
> However, are there any pragmatic examples where {lo SE nei} would create
> conciseness or would be highly desirable?
>

I wouldn't call it highly desirable, but I suppose you can have things like
"mi prami lo se nei be do", "I love those you love".

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gleki.is.my.n=
ame@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div =
dir=3D"ltr">{lo nei} is quite useful, e.g. {li lumci lo nei}.</div></blockq=
uote><div><br></div><div>&quot;mi lumci lo nei&quot; is &quot;I wash washer=
s/the washer&quot;, right?=C2=A0</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding=
-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Any useful examples of {lo se nei}, {lo te=
 nei} etc.?</div><div>Of course one could say=C2=A0</div><div>* {lo se nei =
cu lumci mi} =3D useless</div><div>*{mi klama lo te nei la bastn} =3D why n=
ot {ri}?</div><div><br></div><div>However, are there any pragmatic examples=
 where {lo SE nei} would create conciseness or would be highly desirable?</=
div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I wouldn&#39;t call it highly de=
sirable, but I suppose you can have things like &quot;mi prami lo se nei be=
 do&quot;, &quot;I love those you love&quot;.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><di=
v>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div></div></div=
></div>

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