Received: from mail-qg0-f56.google.com ([209.85.192.56]:49689) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XxaRI-0003FR-33 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2014 03:55:50 -0800 Received: by mail-qg0-f56.google.com with SMTP id z107sf569886qgd.21 for ; Sun, 07 Dec 2014 03:55:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :content-type:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=qCRPcEQouR1BgHBStvbhp3LIzEeyeHDWlZziVP07zng=; b=gY9l/Xjx3XU/oas+VWfagSNr2l6xeGnHXKNZX0v/KrLefxkj0IPRsuGfoFSa8zjPQW ilkCFNG6Duowi9ope5xvHON+8P9hBEMzpvMzo/9uKQcAkP7urM663RyQ+jF/i4CfCMOw am0C3I6RmOZp0Z4nrXrUvXjITgkfGMR8dDLG4mW0bCJkfvNM+hUw/mfB4s74axWUSYsf yUx+GcdmkTVbOVuWoYlomKluKXwqb7Q/vzn6POPyKPeWPscfT0yW3DypLcFWb45HwBX4 6kLNp/d+QnHojtvQMfUAw08nQAhwBbQO53uvxprnrmVc9RHeVMjntK+YJ44Ezn/lpokz s4Ng== X-Received: by 10.50.61.135 with SMTP id p7mr163109igr.9.1417953342002; Sun, 07 Dec 2014 03:55:42 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.107.18.201 with SMTP id 70ls226698ios.35.gmail; Sun, 07 Dec 2014 03:55:41 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.70.44.161 with SMTP id f1mr23634586pdm.7.1417953341764; Sun, 07 Dec 2014 03:55:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.163.71 with SMTP id z7msqax; Sat, 6 Dec 2014 10:17:44 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.140.84.21 with SMTP id k21mr2039qgd.6.1417889864255; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 10:17:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 10:17:43 -0800 (PST) From: htffanofflaky@gmail.com To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <544D34B1.7000000@gmx.de> References: <544D34B1.7000000@gmx.de> Subject: [lojban] Re: Lojban's Biggest Problem or Why Still Nobody Speaks It MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_2955_2056838301.1417889863463" X-Original-Sender: HTFFanOfFlaky@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - ------=_Part_2955_2056838301.1417889863463 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2956_1237059148.1417889863463" ------=_Part_2956_1237059148.1417889863463 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 1. It's designed to combine the words to from relations. Not a lot of words are needed because each added potential concept squares the number of existing ones. Any concept can be used with any other concept. All of your examples do exist in lojban, and are assumed to be from the perspective of the person saying it. Even so, they are terrible examples because they have no concrete definition even in English. 2. Those can be used with concepts. Traffic is such an abstract word it is actually a horrible example. None of those terms have anything in common. Traffic has multiple meanings and using it is like using Google Translate to speak professionally. You will never get there. The whole idea is to remove abstraction and you are bashing it for doing exactly that. 3. Hippopotomonstrososequapedaliaphobia. An actual word in English. What was that about long words again? 4. You memorized a lot more when you learned English. What was that about everyone being unable to learn new words? 5. Of course they aren't derived. It's not based on a single language. That would limit who speaks it. 6. You didn't find the parts because you were too strict in looking and didn't bother to look. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_2956_1237059148.1417889863463 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
1. It's designed to combine the words to from relatio= ns. Not a lot of words are needed because each added potential concept squa= res the number of existing ones. Any concept can be used with any other con= cept. All of your examples do exist in lojban, and are assumed to be from t= he perspective of the person saying it. Even so, they are terrible examples= because they have no concrete definition even in English.
2. Tho= se can be used with concepts. Traffic is such an abstract word it is actual= ly a horrible example. None of those terms have anything in common. Traffic= has multiple meanings and using it is like using Google Translate to speak= professionally. You will never get there. The whole idea is to remove abst= raction and you are bashing it for doing exactly that.
3. Hippopo= tomonstrososequapedaliaphobia. An actual word in English. What was that abo= ut long words again?
4. You memorized a lot more when you learned= English. What was that about everyone being unable to learn new words?
5. Of course they aren't derived. It's not based on a single languag= e. That would limit who speaks it.
6. You didn't find the parts b= ecause you were too strict in looking and didn't bother to look.

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