Received: from mail-oi0-f63.google.com ([209.85.218.63]:62959) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Y6gn5-0002iq-1w for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 01 Jan 2015 06:31:56 -0800 Received: by mail-oi0-f63.google.com with SMTP id u20sf8554428oif.8 for ; Thu, 01 Jan 2015 06:31:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=3KjPw4FX3gAxwjtuchDV6hhEIW3Jrt4AHU14fAiZgug=; b=T3hR5dE6atMgiEM0SIQaOiNtTRGfZlnQSR1PSp8TrKBKD0gU0dHoAJNb3pDhk/cZH7 O8hzkBbdo9niTrfZcg9OtJky2LoElSIa/9YNWHzgrMQ5uCjfi5ZwSs4o1N6jLzsOtEgO W1ZXit1hmIHcL+jlHkwhPd39WwpPBAemPjDwfGeO6Ap/D7l0Z7bcFcK2wa6tc8xiLNRE s/3UsnxPyPj5IvA9mkTxy4Zy+fXt7aeERLoMbw2K+0yWk3xe6hNkzyesB+FhaP9mfvck CAc/wmpGVftRjGgvBti/196whFW57fbZzu2jQoNfFF1u1skltje66Mez7qgNwKDkvU8M 1yIQ== X-Received: by 10.50.88.74 with SMTP id be10mr549108igb.2.1420122708912; Thu, 01 Jan 2015 06:31:48 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.107.16.216 with SMTP id 85ls5899689ioq.45.gmail; Thu, 01 Jan 2015 06:31:48 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.70.140.206 with SMTP id ri14mr13049094pdb.9.1420122708427; Thu, 01 Jan 2015 06:31:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qa0-x22f.google.com (mail-qa0-x22f.google.com. [2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22f]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r4si1895750qca.0.2015.01.01.06.31.48 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 01 Jan 2015 06:31:48 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22f as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22f; Received: by mail-qa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id n4so12070662qaq.34 for ; Thu, 01 Jan 2015 06:31:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.18.131 with SMTP id 3mr13410216qgf.50.1420122708149; Thu, 01 Jan 2015 06:31:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.136.138 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Jan 2015 06:31:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2015 09:31:48 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Question about Lojbanized Name in Unix/Linux From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1135568c8e8df6050b9815d7 X-Original-Sender: Mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22f as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --001a1135568c8e8df6050b9815d7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 2:41 AM, Alexander Kozhevnikov wrote: > ki'e (that means thanks if I'm not forgetting/mistaking things) for the > very informative replies to .xorxes. .uuZIT. Pierre and Gleki. > > My replies to all of you follow, organized loosely by topic (so quotes ar= e > out-of-order from your own messages): > > On Sun, 21 Sep 2014, Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas wrote: > >> >> >> They are not different words in Lojban, just (very slightly) different >> permitted pronunciations of the same word. Even the stress in cmevla >> doesn't change the word, so "aleks=C3=A1ndr" and "al=C3=A9ksandr" and "= =C3=A1leksandr" >> are >> all valid pronounciations of the same word. Stress is only important in >> brivla. >> > Just a side note that not everyone agrees with Jorge's last assertion (e.g. me). I've never seen that said officially anywhere, and have argued against that point in, for example, this thread: https://www.mail-archive.com/lojban-beginners%40lojban.org/msg04820.html Perhaps the next iteration of the CLL will be explicit on this point --gejyspa --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --001a1135568c8e8df6050b9815d7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 2:41 AM, Alexander Kozhevnikov <alexkoz@gmail.= com> wrote:
ki'e (that means thanks i= f I'm not forgetting/mistaking things) for the very informative replies= to .xorxes. .uuZIT. Pierre and Gleki.

My replies to all of you follow, organized loosely by topic (so quotes are = out-of-order from your own messages):

On Sun, 21 Sep 2014, Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas wrote:


They are not different words in Lojban, just (very slightly) different
permitted pronunciations of the same word. Even the stress in cmevla
doesn't change the word, so "aleks=C3=A1ndr" and "al=C3= =A9ksandr" and "=C3=A1leksandr" are
all valid pronounciations of the same word. Stress is only important in
brivla.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0Just a= side note that not everyone agrees with Jorge's last assertion (e.g. m= e).=C2=A0 I've never seen that said officially anywhere, and have argue= d against that point in, for example, this thread:=C2=A0https://w= ww.mail-archive.com/lojban-beginners%40lojban.org/msg04820.html

=C2=A0 Perhap= s the next iteration of the CLL will be explicit on this point

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0--gejyspa

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