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But I translated a lot of >> them. :-) >> >> In my translation, I make no distinction between singular and plural. >> Since the number does often not matter, after all. >> A translation for a singular can be obtained with “lo pa TEXT”, eg. >> “lo pa matci” (a mattress/exactly one mattress). >> A translation for a plural can be obtained with “lo za'u pa TEXT”, >> eg. “lo za'u pa matci” (mattresses/more than one mattress). >> >> For some terms we have an unambigious word ready in Lojban and in the >> dictionary. I did not coin any lujvo or fu'ivla ad hoc. For words where >> there is no word in the dictionary ready, I created a tanru instead. >> Sometimes there’s even a gismu for that. 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Recyclables= =20 > are a specific kind of waste, reusable. Yet, I have a hard time finding t= he=20 > right words for "recyclable". > > On Saturday, April 19, 2014, Wuzzy > wrote: > >> ALRIGHT, let=E2=80=99s do this! >> >> First of all, I am going to assume that you did NOT want to have proper >> names. You wrote everything as a proper name but I guess you actually >> want to have the substantives, verbs or adjectives translated. I >> pretend you have written everything in lower-case. >> >> Before I start, first some notes: >> Before you use a translation, ALWAYS check the words in jbovlaste or >> vlatai before using them. Don=E2=80=99t just blindly take the translatio= ns, you >> will be doomed to fail. >> English words have like 1000 possible interpretations and can=E2=80=99t >> guarantee that I always guessed the correct one. >> >> I translated nouns with =E2=80=9Clo TEXT=E2=80=9D, in sumti form. >> Verbs and adjectives are translated with =E2=80=9CTEXT=E2=80=9D, as a se= lbri. >> I will omit words I did not translate. But I translated a lot of >> them. :-) >> >> In my translation, I make no distinction between singular and plural. >> Since the number does often not matter, after all. >> A translation for a singular can be obtained with =E2=80=9Clo pa TEXT=E2= =80=9D, eg. >> =E2=80=9Clo pa matci=E2=80=9D (a mattress/exactly one mattress). >> A translation for a plural can be obtained with =E2=80=9Clo za'u pa TEXT= =E2=80=9D, >> eg. =E2=80=9Clo za'u pa matci=E2=80=9D (mattresses/more than one mattres= s). >> >> For some terms we have an unambigious word ready in Lojban and in the >> dictionary. I did not coin any lujvo or fu'ivla ad hoc. For words where >> there is no word in the dictionary ready, I created a tanru instead. >> Sometimes there=E2=80=99s even a gismu for that. But be a bit careful wi= th >> those, as those are often vague. >> In the square brackets, I wrote a more or less literal >> reverse translation. This is interesting for tanru. >> >> You posted a lot of interesting words and I think most of them deserve >> their own Lojban words. I am sure the translation results may help >> other lojbanists as well. :-) >> Perhaps I will make lujvo of the most useful tanru in the future, and >> publish the results on jbovlaste. >> >> BUT NOW finally for the translations: >> >> > Ceiling >> lo drudi (very very unsure) >> >> > TV Stand >> lo veltivjoividni zbepi >> lo ti'ivni zbepi >> lo tivyvidni zbepi >> (basically depends wheather you mean TV set or TV screen) >> >> > Trash Can >> Same as =E2=80=9Crecycle bin=E2=80=9D: >> lo festi baktu [waste-bucket] >> >> > Headphones >> lo kertintci [headphone] >> >> > Bed Frame >> lo ckana greku [bed-frame] >> >> > Mattress >> lo matci [mat/pad/mattress/pallet] >> >> > Pillow >> lo kicne [cushion] >> >> > Keys >> lo ckiku [key to open a lock] >> lo daplu [sort of island] >> >> > Door Frame >> lo vorme greku [doorway-frame] >> >> > Basin >> lo tansi [ban/basin/tub/sink] >> >> > Lid >> lo ve botpi [lid of a bottle] >> lo drudi [roof/top/ceiling/lid on top of something] >> >> > Mirror >> lo minra [mirror] >> >> > Soap Dish >> lo zbabu palne [soap-tray] >> >> > Mug >> lo kabri [cup/glass/tumbler/mug/vessel] >> >> > Coaster >> lo zdima'aterte'e [roller-coaster] >> >> > Cutting Board >> lo nu katna kei tanbo [cutting-board] >> >> > Kettle >> lo patxu [pot/kettle/urn/tub/sink] >> >> > Hood >> lo sedgai [hood/headgear] >> >> > Doorknob >> lo vrogaibatke [doorknob] >> >> > Toilet Seat >> lo vimstizu [excrete-seat] >> >> > Light >> linto [to be light in weight] >> gusni [to illuminate/to be a light] >> lo gusni [a light] >> >> > Razor >> lo balre [blade] >> >> > Jar >> lo botpi [bottle/jar/urn/flask/closable container] >> >> > Recycle Bin >> Same as =E2=80=9Ctrash can=E2=80=9D: >> lo festi baktu [waste-bucket] >> >> > Laundry Basket >> lo taxfu vasru [clothing-container] >> >> > Dustpan >> le nu lumci kei canpa [cleaning-shovel] >> >> > Tool Box >> lo tutci tanxe [tool-box/crate] >> >> > Movie >> lo skina [cinema/movie/film] >> >> > Amplifier >> > Blinds >> lo murta [curtain/blinds/drapes] >> >> > Comic Book >> lo lisxra cukta [comic strip book] >> >> > Slippers >> lo ctecutci [slipper/=E2=80=9Cnight shoe=E2=80=9D] >> lo zdacutci [slipper/=E2=80=9Chouse shoe=E2=80=9D] >> >> > Sandals >> lo karcutci [sandal] >> >> > Ash Tray >> lo fagyfesti palne [ashes-tray] >> >> > Laundry Detergent >> lo taxfu ke lumci xukmi [clothing-(cleaner-chemical)] >> >> This has been made in two parts and then has been combined: >> laundry: >> lo taxfu [clothing (not implying dirt for simplicity=E2=80=99s s= ake)] >> >> detergent: >> lo lumci xukmi [cleaner-chemical] >> >> > Matches >> lo sacki [match (incendiary device)] >> >> > Stapler >> lo plopijne tutci [staple-tool] >> >> > Sauce Pan >> lo sanso tansi [sauce-pan] >> >> > Strainer >> lo te rinci [drain/strainer] >> lo julne [filter] >> >> > Corn >> lo gurni [grain/Brisish =E2=80=9Ccorn=E2=80=9D] >> lo zumri [corn/maize] >> >> > Cereal >> lo gurni (depends what you mean with =E2=80=9Ccereal=E2=80=9D) >> >> > Chips >> lo ga'arpatlu [French fries/British =E2=80=9Cchips=E2=80=9D] >> ????????????? [chips (American sense)] >> >> > Pork >> lo xarju [living pig/pork/hog] >> lo xarju retcu [pork-meat] >> >> > Teacup >> lo tcati kapri [tea-cup] >> >> > Serving Tray >> lo nu selfu kei palne [event-of-serving-tray] >> >> > Cooking Oil >> lo nu jukpa kei grasu [event-of-cooking-oil] >> >> > Frying Pan >> lo juptansi [frying pan/wok] >> >> > Notepad >> lo notci tutci [note-tool] (poor tanru, I know) >> >> > Marker >> lo barna pinsi [mark-pencil] >> >> > Watermelon >> lo guzme [generic melon (plant/fruit)] >> >> > Annoying >> x1 fanza x2 >> [x1 (an event) is annoying for x2] >> x1 fazgau x2 x3 >> [x1 (an annoyer) does x2 (an event), which is annoying for x3] >> >> > Greasy >> ka grasu [to have a property of grease] >> >> > Frozen >> bisli [to be ice] (poor translation) >> >> > Comfortable >> kumfa [to be comfortable] >> >> > Awesome >> banli [great/grant/awesome/etc. etc. etc.] >> >> > Smelly >> se panci [to emit a smell to someone] >> -OR- >> se sumne [to have a smell to someone] >> >> > Wooden >> mudri [to be wood] >> >> > Juicy >> ka jisra [to have a property of juicyness] >> jisra [to be juice] >> >> > Stylish >> This can=E2=80=99t probably be translated in a good way, since the word >> =E2=80=9Cstylish=E2=80=9D is too vague to me. >> >> > Addictive >> se maltcu [derogative] >> >> > Flammable >> jelca [to be flammable/to burn] >> >> > Dangerous >> ckape [to be dangerous] >> >> > Rotate >> carna [to rotate] >> >> > Blend >> lo mixre [a blend] >> mixre gasnu [to cause something to be a blend] >> >> > Tighten >> tagji gasnu [to cause something to be tight] >> tagji zukte [to cause something to be tight, with a goal] >> >> > Take (picture) >> kacmyterxra [to take a picture/photo] >> >> > Light >> We already had this. >> >> > Dispose >> fesygau [to leave a waste product] >> >> > Heal >> mikce [to doctor/to treat/to nurse/etc., very generic sense] >> >> > Drip >> lo dirgo [a drop] >> >> > Flush >> rinci >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s=20 >> "lojban" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send a= n=20 >> email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > --=20 > P.S.: I prefer to be reached on BitMessage at=20 > BM-2D8txNiU7b84d2tgqvJQdgBog6A69oDAx6 > If I recall correctly, I added a lujvo for "recycle" a while back,=20 {ninfesyborpli}. x1=3Dp1 recycles x2=3Dp2=3Df1=3Dc2 for new purpose x3=3Dp3=3Dc3 from origin= al use x4=3Df2,=20 purpose new by standard x5=3Dc4. 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On Sunday, January 18, 2015 at 10:53:11 AM UTC-6, = xuinkrbin. wrote:
Not saying I = enjoy dragging up old topics but I have a hard time accepting the translati= on of "recycle bin" being the same as trash can. Recyclables are a specific= kind of waste, reusable. Yet, I have a hard time finding the right words f= or "recyclable".

On Saturday, April 19, 2014, Wuzzy <= ;alm...@aol.com&g= t; wrote:
ALRIGHT, let=E2=80=99s do this!=

First of all, I am going to assume that you did NOT want to have proper
names. You wrote everything as a proper name but I guess you actually
want to have the substantives, verbs or adjectives translated. I
pretend you have written everything in lower-case.

Before I start, first some notes:
Before you use a translation, ALWAYS check the words in jbovlaste or
vlatai before using them. Don=E2=80=99t just blindly take the translations,= you
will be doomed to fail.
English words have like 1000 possible interpretations and can=E2=80=99t
guarantee that I always guessed the correct one.

I translated nouns with =E2=80=9Clo TEXT=E2=80=9D, in sumti form.
Verbs and adjectives are translated with =E2=80=9CTEXT=E2=80=9D, as a selbr= i.
I will omit words I did not translate. But I translated a lot of
them. :-)

In my translation, I make no distinction between singular and plural.
Since the number does often not matter, after all.
A translation for a singular can be obtained with =E2=80=9Clo pa TEXT=E2=80= =9D, eg.
=E2=80=9Clo pa matci=E2=80=9D (a mattress/exactly one mattress).
A translation for a plural can be obtained with =E2=80=9Clo za'u pa TEXT=E2= =80=9D,
eg. =E2=80=9Clo za'u pa matci=E2=80=9D (mattresses/more than one mattress).=

For some terms we have an unambigious word ready in Lojban and in the
dictionary. I did not coin any lujvo or fu'ivla ad hoc. For words where
there is no word in the dictionary ready, I created a tanru instead.
Sometimes there=E2=80=99s even a gismu for that. But be a bit careful with<= br> those, as those are often vague.
In the square brackets, I wrote a more or less literal
reverse translation. This is interesting for tanru.

You posted a lot of interesting words and I think most of them deserve
their own Lojban words. I am sure the translation results may help
other lojbanists as well. :-)
Perhaps I will make lujvo of the most useful tanru in the future, and
publish the results on jbovlaste.

BUT NOW finally for the translations:

> Ceiling
lo drudi (very very unsure)

> TV Stand
lo veltivjoividni zbepi
lo ti'ivni zbepi
lo tivyvidni zbepi
(basically depends wheather you mean TV set or TV screen)

> Trash Can
Same as =E2=80=9Crecycle bin=E2=80=9D:
lo festi baktu [waste-bucket]

> Headphones
lo kertintci [headphone]

> Bed Frame
lo ckana greku [bed-frame]

> Mattress
lo matci [mat/pad/mattress/pallet]

> Pillow
lo kicne [cushion]

> Keys
lo ckiku [key to open a lock]
lo daplu [sort of island]

> Door Frame
lo vorme greku [doorway-frame]

> Basin
lo tansi [ban/basin/tub/sink]

> Lid
lo ve botpi [lid of a bottle]
lo drudi [roof/top/ceiling/lid on top of something]

> Mirror
lo minra [mirror]

> Soap Dish
lo zbabu palne [soap-tray]

> Mug
lo kabri [cup/glass/tumbler/mug/vessel]

> Coaster
lo zdima'aterte'e [roller-coaster]

> Cutting Board
lo nu katna kei tanbo [cutting-board]

> Kettle
lo patxu [pot/kettle/urn/tub/sink]

> Hood
lo sedgai [hood/headgear]

> Doorknob
lo vrogaibatke [doorknob]

> Toilet Seat
lo vimstizu [excrete-seat]

> Light
linto [to be light in weight]
gusni [to illuminate/to be a light]
lo gusni [a light]

> Razor
lo balre [blade]

> Jar
lo botpi [bottle/jar/urn/flask/closable container]

> Recycle Bin
Same as =E2=80=9Ctrash can=E2=80=9D:
lo festi baktu [waste-bucket]

> Laundry Basket
lo taxfu vasru [clothing-container]

> Dustpan
le nu lumci kei canpa [cleaning-shovel]

> Tool Box
lo tutci tanxe [tool-box/crate]

> Movie
lo skina [cinema/movie/film]

> Amplifier
> Blinds
lo murta [curtain/blinds/drapes]

> Comic Book
lo lisxra cukta [comic strip book]

> Slippers
lo ctecutci [slipper/=E2=80=9Cnight shoe=E2=80=9D]
lo zdacutci [slipper/=E2=80=9Chouse shoe=E2=80=9D]

> Sandals
lo karcutci [sandal]

> Ash Tray
lo fagyfesti palne [ashes-tray]

> Laundry Detergent
lo taxfu ke lumci xukmi [clothing-(cleaner-chemical)]

This has been made in two parts and then has been combined:
laundry:
        lo taxfu [clothing (not implying dirt for simpl= icity=E2=80=99s sake)]

detergent:
        lo lumci xukmi [cleaner-chemical]

> Matches
lo sacki [match (incendiary device)]

> Stapler
lo plopijne tutci [staple-tool]

> Sauce Pan
lo sanso tansi [sauce-pan]

> Strainer
lo te rinci [drain/strainer]
lo julne [filter]

> Corn
lo gurni [grain/Brisish =E2=80=9Ccorn=E2=80=9D]
lo zumri [corn/maize]

> Cereal
lo gurni (depends what you mean with =E2=80=9Ccereal=E2=80=9D)

> Chips
lo ga'arpatlu [French fries/British =E2=80=9Cchips=E2=80=9D]
????????????? [chips (American sense)]

> Pork
lo xarju [living pig/pork/hog]
lo xarju retcu [pork-meat]

> Teacup
lo tcati kapri [tea-cup]

> Serving Tray
lo nu selfu kei palne [event-of-serving-tray]

> Cooking Oil
lo nu jukpa kei grasu [event-of-cooking-oil]

> Frying Pan
lo juptansi [frying pan/wok]

> Notepad
lo notci tutci [note-tool] (poor tanru, I know)

> Marker
lo barna pinsi [mark-pencil]

> Watermelon
lo guzme [generic melon (plant/fruit)]

> Annoying
x1 fanza x2
        [x1 (an event) is annoying for x2]
x1 fazgau x2 x3
        [x1 (an annoyer) does x2 (an event), which is a= nnoying for x3]

> Greasy
ka grasu [to have a property of grease]

> Frozen
bisli [to be ice] (poor translation)

> Comfortable
kumfa [to be comfortable]

> Awesome
banli [great/grant/awesome/etc. etc. etc.]

> Smelly
se panci [to emit a smell to someone]
-OR-
se sumne [to have a smell to someone]

> Wooden
mudri [to be wood]

> Juicy
ka jisra [to have a property of juicyness]
jisra [to be juice]

> Stylish
This can=E2=80=99t probably be translated in a good way, since the word
=E2=80=9Cstylish=E2=80=9D is too vague to me.

> Addictive
se maltcu [derogative]

> Flammable
jelca [to be flammable/to burn]

> Dangerous
ckape [to be dangerous]

> Rotate
carna [to rotate]

> Blend
lo mixre [a blend]
mixre gasnu [to cause something to be a blend]

> Tighten
tagji gasnu [to cause something to be tight]
tagji zukte [to cause something to be tight, with a goal]

> Take (picture)
kacmyterxra [to take a picture/photo]

> Light
We already had this.

> Dispose
fesygau [to leave a waste product]

> Heal
mikce [to doctor/to treat/to nurse/etc., very generic sense]

> Drip
lo dirgo [a drop]

> Flush
rinci

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