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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: coi ro do I have a question. Let's consider the sentence {mi djica tu'a da}. Does {da} have scope/priority over {tu'a}, or vice versa? Which of the below expansions is correct? 1) {mi djica lo du'u su'o da zo'u da co'e} -- {tu'a} expands first, it has priority over {da}. 2) {su'o da zo'u mi djica lo du'u da co'e} -- {da} expands first, it has priority over {tu'a}. 3) Ambiguous scope. [...] Content analysis details: (0.8 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. 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Let's consider the sentence {mi djica tu'a da}. Does {da} have scope/priority over {tu'a}, or vice versa? Which of the below expansions is correct? 1) {mi djica lo du'u su'o da zo'u da co'e} -- {tu'a} expands first, it has priority over {da}. 2) {su'o da zo'u mi djica lo du'u da co'e} -- {da} expands first, it has priority over {tu'a}. 3) Ambiguous scope. The Lojban interpreter Tersmus opines that {da} has priority over {tu'a}. However, this behavior doesn't parallel the way LE is handled: {mi djica lo co'e be da} is interpreted as {mi djica lo poi'i su'o da zo'u ke'a da co'e}, and not as {su'o da zo'u mi djica lo poi'i ke'a da co'e}, so {lo} has scope/priority over {da}. Shouldn't all the gadri (LE and LAhE, in this case) have the same behavior with regard to logical scope? mu'o mi'e la .ilmen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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