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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > > How can {lo se xi vei pa a re no'a} be monoparsed in pragmatic terms? It > still has two readings. > It has a single parse. One that involves a disjunction. [...] Content analysis details: (0.8 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: googlegroups.com] 2.7 DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL RBL: Envelope sender listed in dnsbl.ahbl.org [listed in googlegroups.com.rhsbl.ahbl.org. 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It > still has two readings. > It has a single parse. One that involves a disjunction. > {mi prami do} still has zillions of readings including {mi ba'o prami do} > and {mi ba zu ze'i ru'i prami do}. > Not really, it only expresses the relation "prami" between two arguments "mi" and "do", basically P{m,d) in FOPL notation. There's no syntactic ambiguity. The wikipedia article on ambiguity discusses the distinction between ambiguity and vagueness, as well as different types of ambiguity: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambiguity mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. 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On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <= gleki.is.my= .name@gmail.com> wrote:
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How can {lo se xi vei pa a re no'a} be monoparsed i= n pragmatic terms? It still has two readings.
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It has a single parse. One that involves a disjunction.
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{mi prami do} stil= l has zillions of readings including {mi ba'o prami do} and {mi ba zu z= e'i ru'i prami do}.

Not= really, it only expresses the relation "prami" between two argum= ents "mi" and "do", basically P{m,d) in FOPL notation. = There's no syntactic ambiguity. The wikipedia article on ambiguity disc= usses the distinction between ambiguity and vagueness, as well as different= types of ambiguity: htt= p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambiguity

mu'o m= i'e xorxes

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