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 Content preview:  2015-01-28 17:24 GMT+03:00 'Wuzzy' via lojban <lojban@googlegroups.com>:
    > And to answer your question: Maybe? I am not really sure I know only of
    > a single empiric study testing the weak version of the Sapir-Whorf > hypothesis.
    The finding is: Your native language indeed kinda > shapes your thought.
   But this effect, the so-called Whorfian effect is > quickly gone as soon as
    one knows more than just one's native language. > [...] 
 
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2015-01-28 17:24 GMT+03:00 'Wuzzy' via lojban <lojban@googlegroups.com>:

> And to answer your question: Maybe? I am not really sure I know only of
> a single empiric study testing the weak version of the Sapir-Whorf
> hypothesis. The finding is: Your native language indeed kinda
> shapes your thought. But this effect, the so-called Whorfian effect is
> quickly gone as soon as one knows more than just one's native language.
>

One important note: although for certain constructs the effect is gone it
can still remain in other fields until one learns alternatives in those
fields or find limitations in them.

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a single empiric study testing the weak version of the Sapir-Whorf<br>
hypothesis. The finding is: Your native language indeed kinda<br>
shapes your thought. But this effect, the so-called Whorfian effect is<br>
quickly gone as soon as one knows more than just one&#39;s native language.=
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onstructs the effect is gone it can still remain in other fields until one =
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