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 Content preview:  On 28/01/2015 00:06, Jorge Llambías wrote: > > Describing
    the porsi2 of [b,r,o,d,o] is a pain because it's an > arbitrary sequence,
    not one that follows some simple rule. Since we're > going to need to refer
    to two instances of the letter "o" we can use > the pronouns ".o bu xi pa"
    and ".o bu xi re" for each instance, and > "by", "ry" and "dy" for the other
    three letter instances. Then porsi2 > could be something like "lo du'u ge
    by cu pa moi gi ge ry cu re moi gi > ge .o bu xi pa cu ci moi gi ge dy cu
    vo moi gi ,o bu xi re cu mu moi". [...] 
 
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On 28/01/2015 00:06, Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas wrote:
>
> Describing the porsi2 of [b,r,o,d,o] is a pain because it's an=20
> arbitrary sequence, not one that follows some simple rule. Since we're=20
> going to need to refer to two instances of the letter "o" we can use=20
> the pronouns ".o bu xi pa" and ".o bu xi re" for each instance, and=20
> "by", "ry" and "dy" for the other three letter instances. Then porsi2=20
> could be something like "lo du'u ge by cu pa moi gi ge ry cu re moi gi=20
> ge .o bu xi pa cu ci moi gi ge dy cu vo moi gi ,o bu xi re cu mu moi".

"N moi" is a claim stating a relation between three arguments and a=20
number. What are the x2 and x3 of moi there so that the bridi's claim=20
holds true?

I think {moi} is totally inappropriate there, as we need a sorting rule=20
for defining another sorting rule; porsi-2 should at least be an unary=20
property of porsi-1, and I guess that {lidne} or {li'erla'i} is the way=20
to go for building up the sequence.

{porsi lo ka fi ce'u li'erla'i fa by fe ry gi'e li'erla'i fa ry fe .obu=20
gi'e.....}

pei

mi'e la .ilmen. mu'o


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