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On 30 January 2015 at 00:20, Dmitry Kourmyshov <dmitry.kourm= yshov@gmail.com> wrote:

(By the way, am I right in understanding what only those = modals which have short BAI form could be used in connectives?)


The reason why CLL says that "fi'o broda [= fe'u] bo" is not allowed is that this construction, together with = selbri tcita, is not LR(1) which is was the target at the time.

It i= s expressible in PEG, and is in the experimental parsers.

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