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la gleki:
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{lo na'e dikca te = gusni}? 
If "light bulb" has to be electric than the = only thing we can do either to invent a new fu'ivla or to try to explicitly= exclude electrical ones.
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la piier:
Are you thinking of a paper bag with a candle in it, a chain of which = is used=20
to light a way? For a light fixture, how about "tergu'ica'a"?


I was thinking about asking someone to bring me a lamp from a table tha= t also has a light bulb on it.
I can interpret dictergu'i and tergu'ica'= a as light bulb.

I'm thinking about something like "light emitter ho= using structure",
which could or could not be electric.

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