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 Content preview:  On Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 11:42:32AM +0300, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
    > "Fred saw a plane flying over Zurich" can have several meanings Yes. However,
    for me, the issue here is that we (hopefully..) agree that there are different
    parse trees (which yield the different meanings). [...] 
 
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On Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 11:42:32AM +0300, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
> "Fred saw a plane flying over Zurich" can have several meanings

Yes.
However, for me, the issue here is that we (hopefully..) agree
that there are different parse trees (which yield the different meanings).

> {la fred pu viska lo vinji do'e lo se xi vei mo'e zo'e nei poi vofli ga'u
> la tsurix}

camxes only produces one parse tree for that.
If you think it should produce more then one, raise a bug report.

> Since I and II aren't officially described and/or banned/allowed I have no
> idea why Lojban is said to have monoparsing different from the one in
> English.

Monoparsing does, by no means, imply that there is only one interpretation
of a sentence. It only means that you don't have to deal with these different
interpretations on a shallow level when parsing the sentence.
If you want to be ambiguous, be ambiguous. .i ko vinji co'e


v4hn

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