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'Nobody,' said the Messenger. 'Quite right,' said the King: 'this young lady saw him too. So of course=20 Nobody walks slower than you.' 'I do my best,' the Messenger said in a sulky tone. 'I'm sure nobody=20 walks much faster than I do!' 'He can't do that,' said the King, 'or else he'd have been here first. It makes no sense in Lojban, which of course is the point, but in=20 English one can read "Nobody" as a name. This ambiguity is lost in the=20 Lojban. However, using {la no da} would have been really bad, so I stuck=20 with just {no da}. Let's say it's the King's fault, not Lojban's. :) mi'e la selpa'i mu'o --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. 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