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[2a00:1450:400c:c03::234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j3si434628wiw.0.2015.02.07.05.24.00 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 07 Feb 2015 05:24:00 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c03::234 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c03::234; Received: by mail-we0-f180.google.com with SMTP id m14so18573818wev.11 for ; Sat, 07 Feb 2015 05:24:00 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.180.198.148 with SMTP id jc20mr6157756wic.67.1423315439906; Sat, 07 Feb 2015 05:23:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.86.200 with HTTP; Sat, 7 Feb 2015 05:23:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20150207124548.GA1004@kuebelreiter> References: <20150207124548.GA1004@kuebelreiter> From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 16:23:39 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] the myth of monoparsing To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b66f4773318c5050e7f73f5 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c03::234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.8 X-Spam_score_int: 8 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "stodi.digitalkingdom.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: 2015-02-07 15:45 GMT+03:00 v4hn : > On Sat, Feb 07, 2015 at 09:23:38AM +0300, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > > Sorry but if you don't understand Lojban then ... why all this > discussion here? > > I was trying to show how Lojban parsers deal with another level of > analysing text. > > Because And tried to make sense out of your trollish explanation w.r.t. > English. > [...] Content analysis details: (0.8 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. 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I truly believe that there is some misunderstanding of how English text can be parsed, namely, that clauses should not be necessarily attached to explicitly defined heads. Imprecise numbers like {mo'e zo'e} could be used for parsing English as well. And if And can't read Lojban sentences then a true comparison between parsers for the two languages can't be made. Is there anything more simple? To talk about a subject one needs to be familiar with this subject. Otherwise this reminds of "200 words for snow in Inuktitut". > > As this failed, I don't see any sense in further contributions to this > thread.. > That someone disagrees with you doesn't immediately mean he is not right. > > > v4hn > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. 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2015-02-07 15:45 GMT+03:00 v4hn <me@v4hn.de>:
On Sat, Feb 07, 2015 at 09:23:38AM +0300,= Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
> Sorry but if you don't understand Lojban then ... why all this dis= cussion here?
> I was trying to show how Lojban parsers deal with another level of ana= lysing text.

Because And tried to make sense out of your trollish explanation w.r= .t. English.

This explanation wasn'= t trollish. I truly believe that there is some misunderstanding of how Engl= ish text can be parsed, namely, that clauses should not be necessarily atta= ched to explicitly defined heads. Imprecise numbers like {mo'e zo'e= } could be used for parsing English as well.

And i= f And can't read Lojban sentences then a true comparison between parser= s for the two languages can't be made.

Is ther= e anything more simple?
To talk about a subject one needs to be f= amiliar with this subject.

Otherwise this reminds = of "200 words for snow in Inuktitut".

= =C2=A0

As this failed, I don't see any sense in further contributions to this = thread..

That someone disagrees with yo= u doesn't immediately mean he is not right.

= =C2=A0


v4hn

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