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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 8:19 AM, DataPacRat wrote: > There is an English construction that derives from a science-fiction > novel: "On the one hand, X. On the other hand, Y. On the gripping > hand, Z is more important than X or Y." (Ref: > http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=On+The+Gripping+Hand ) > [...] Content analysis details: (0.8 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: urbandictionary.com] 2.7 DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL RBL: Envelope sender listed in dnsbl.ahbl.org [listed in googlegroups.com.rhsbl.ahbl.org. 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On the other hand, Y. On the gripping > hand, Z is more important than X or Y." (Ref: > http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=On+The+Gripping+Hand ) > I knew it as "on the third hand": http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=third%20hand Would anyone here take it amiss if I used zu'ucu'i in my own SF novel > to imitate this construction? > "zu'u cu'i" sounds to me more like compromise, or a synthesis to zu'u and zu'u nai thesis and antithesis. You could also try "zu'u xi pa", "zu'u xi re", "zu'u xi ci"... But feel free to experiment. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. 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= On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 8:19 AM, DataPacRat <datapacrat@gmail.com>= ; wrote:
There is an English construction that d= erives from a science-fiction
novel: "On the one hand, X. On the other hand, Y. On the gripping
hand, Z is more important than X or Y." (Ref:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=3DO= n+The+Gripping+Hand )

I knew it as = "on the third hand": =C2=A0http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p= hp?term=3Dthird%20hand

Would anyone here take it amiss if I used zu'ucu'i in my own SF nov= el
to imitate this construction?

"zu&= #39;u cu'i" sounds to me more like compromise, or a synthesis to z= u'u and zu'u nai thesis and antithesis.

Yo= u could also try "zu'u xi pa", "zu'u xi re", &q= uot;zu'u xi ci"...=C2=A0

But feel free to= experiment.

mu'o mi'e xorxes
=C2=A0

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