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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Thanks much for the list! I installed these on the server but Prince still didn't pick them up. I had to change the references in the CSS to explicltly "Linux Libertine O" and "Linux Biolinum O". I still don't see it using Unifont or DejaVu Sans Mono anywhere, but I'm only testing chapter 5 at the moment, so perhaps those are just not used there. [...] Content analysis details: (0.8 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: googlegroups.com] 2.7 DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL RBL: Envelope sender listed in dnsbl.ahbl.org [listed in googlegroups.com.rhsbl.ahbl.org. 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I installed these on the server but Prince still = didn't pick them up. I had to change the references in the CSS to explicltl= y "Linux Libertine O" and "Linux Biolinum O". I still don't see it using Un= ifont or DejaVu Sans Mono anywhere, but I'm only testing chapter 5 at the m= oment, so perhaps those are just not used there. =20 - mu'o mi'e la durkavore =20 On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 4:09 AM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > The CSS allows for *many* alternative fonts, just to be helpful :), > but here's the actual primary font list: > =20 > prince: Converting document... > prince: used font: Linux Libertine O, Bold > prince: used font: Linux Libertine O, Regular > prince: used font: Linux Libertine O, Italic > prince: used font: Linux Biolinum O, Bold > prince: used font: Linux Biolinum O, Regular > prince: used font: DejaVu Serif, Bold > prince: used font: DejaVu Serif, Book > prince: used font: DejaVu Sans Mono, Book > prince: used font: Linux Libertine O, Bold Italic > prince: used font: Unifont, Medium > prince: used font: Linux Biolinum O, Italic > prince: used font: DejaVu Sans Mono, Oblique > =20 > If you have those all installed, you should get exactly the same > results as I get. > =20 > On Sat, Feb 07, 2015 at 11:37:14PM -0800, la durka wrote: > > I've been compiling both locally on OSX (ex: alexburka.com/tmp/cll_5.pd= f (http://alexburka.com/tmp/cll_5.pdf)) =20 > > and with my git-auto-updating-gizmo on a Debian server (ex: =20 > > alexburka.com/lojban/cll_5.pdf (http://alexburka.com/lojban/cll_5.pdf))= and getting wildly different fonts. =20 > > Specifically, with the font I get on Linux I'm having to split a lot of= =20 > > examples to prevent them overflowing the page. So which font (or neithe= r) =20 > > is the one you will use when building the real PDF? > > =20 > > - mu'o mi'e la durkavore > > =20 > > El viernes, 23 de enero de 2015, 17:07:00 (UTC-5), Robin Powell escribi= =C3=B3: > > > =20 > > > =20 > > > Right now I'm working on table alignment and making sure the tables = =20 > > > aren't too wide, which is easy stuff anybody able to handle github = =20 > > > can help with. =20 > > > =20 > > > I'm on the docbook-prince branch; see for example =20 > > > =20 > > > https://github.com/lojban/cll/commit/1f13384d3ef48158011c6837e4720293= 0a606abe =20 > > > =20 > > > The tables, of which there are many, are now =20 > > > strictly aligned by word, where "word" is defined as "not spaces". = =20 > > > =20 > > > So in the old version we might have had: =20 > > > =20 > > > mi cu klama =20 > > > I go =20 > > > =20 > > > In the new version this would result in: =20 > > > =20 > > > mi cu klama =20 > > > I go =20 > > > =20 > > > So I've been inserting - when there's no equivalent word, like so: = =20 > > > =20 > > > mi cu klama =20 > > > I - go =20 > > > =20 > > > The other big one has been glossing "la" as "that-named". =20 > > > =20 > > > Anyways, there's *LOTS* of this sort of work to do; I could use some = =20 > > > help. =20 > > > =20 > > > THESE ARE CONTENT CHANGES PLEASE BE VERY CAREFUL. =20 > > > =20 > > > Send pull requests. Thanks! =20 > > > =20 > > > -- =20 > > > http://intelligence.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future= . =20 > > > .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i dafsku lu na go'i li'u .= e =20 > > > lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e = =20 > > > lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofyba= kni =20 > > > li'u =20 > > > =20 > > =20 > > =20 > > -- =20 > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou= ps "lojban" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send = an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com (mailto:lojban+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com). > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com (mailto:lo= jban@googlegroups.com). > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > -- =20 > http://intelligence.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. > .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i dafsku lu na go'i li'u .e > lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e > lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni = li'u > =20 > -- =20 > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Go= ogle Groups "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/l= ojban/8dLXPPf3dhc/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to lojba= n+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com (mailto:lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com)= . > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com (mailto:lojb= an@googlegroups.com). > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > =20 > =20 --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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Thanks much for the list! I installed these on the serv= er but Prince still didn't pick them up. I had to change the references in = the CSS to explicltly "Linux Libertine O" and "Linux Biolinum O". I still d= on't see it using Unifont or DejaVu Sans Mono anywhere, but I'm only testin= g chapter 5 at the moment, so perhaps those are just not used there.

- mu'o mi'e la durkavore
=20

On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at= 4:09 AM, Robin Lee Powell wrote:

The CSS allows for *many* alternat= ive fonts, just to be helpful :),
but here's the actual primary f= ont list:

prince: Converting document...
prince: used font: Linux Libertine O, Bold
prince: used font: Li= nux Libertine O, Regular
prince: used font: Linux Libertine O, It= alic
prince: used font: Linux Biolinum O, Bold
prince: = used font: Linux Biolinum O, Regular
prince: used font: DejaVu Se= rif, Bold
prince: used font: DejaVu Serif, Book
prince:= used font: DejaVu Sans Mono, Book
prince: used font: Linux Liber= tine O, Bold Italic
prince: used font: Unifont, Medium
= prince: used font: Linux Biolinum O, Italic
prince: used font: De= jaVu Sans Mono, Oblique

If you have those all inst= alled, you should get exactly the same
results as I get.

On Sat, Feb 07, 2015 at 11:37:14PM -0800, la durka wrote:<= /div>
I've been compiling both locally o= n OSX (ex: alexburka.com/tmp= /cll_5.pdf)
and with my git-auto-updating-gizmo on a Debian = server (ex:
al= exburka.com/lojban/cll_5.pdf) and getting wildly different fonts.
Specifically, with the font I get on Linux I'm having to split a lot = of
examples to prevent them overflowing the page. So which font = (or neither)
is the one you will use when building the real PDF?=

- mu'o mi'e la durkavore

El viernes, 23 de enero de 2015, 17:07:00 (UTC-5), Robin Powell escribi=C3= =B3:


Right now I'm working on table alignment and making sure the tables
=
aren't too wide, which is easy stuff anybody able to handle github
can help with.

I'm on the docbook-prince = branch; see for example

https://gi= thub.com/lojban/cll/commit/1f13384d3ef48158011c6837e47202930a606abe

The <interlinear-gloss> tables, of which there= are many, are now
strictly aligned by word, where "word" is def= ined as "not spaces".

So in the old version we mi= ght have had:

mi cu klama
I go

In the new version this would result in:
=
mi cu klama
I go

So I've been inserting - when there's no equivalent word, like so:

mi cu klama
I - go

The other big one has been glossing "la" as "that-na= med".

Anyways, there's *LOTS* of this sort of wor= k to do; I could use some
help.

THESE = ARE CONTENT CHANGES PLEASE BE VERY CAREFUL.

Send = pull requests. Thanks!

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http://intelligence.org/ : Our last, best hop= e for a fantastic future.
.i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbo= pre .i dafsku lu na go'i li'u .e
lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na= 'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e
lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'= e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni
li'u
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