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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: They're mostly only used in the morphology chapter, IIRC. On Sun, Feb 08, 2015 at 03:17:21PM -0500, Alex Burka wrote: > Thanks much for the list! I installed these on the server but Prince still didn't pick them up. I had to change the references in the CSS to explicltly "Linux Libertine O" and "Linux Biolinum O". I still don't see it using Unifont or DejaVu Sans Mono anywhere, but I'm only testing chapter 5 at the moment, so perhaps those are just not used there. > > - mu'o mi'e la durkavore > > > On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 4:09 AM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > The CSS allows for *many* alternative fonts, just to be helpful :), > > but here's the actual primary font list: > > > > prince: Converting document... > > prince: used font: Linux Libertine O, Bold > > prince: used font: Linux Libertine O, Regular > > prince: used font: Linux Libertine O, Italic > > prince: used font: Linux Biolinum O, Bold > > prince: used font: Linux Biolinum O, Regular > > prince: used font: DejaVu Serif, Bold > > prince: used font: DejaVu Serif, Book > > prince: used font: DejaVu Sans Mono, Book > > prince: used font: Linux Libertine O, Bold Italic > > prince: used font: Unifont, Medium > > prince: used font: Linux Biolinum O, Italic > > prince: used font: DejaVu Sans Mono, Oblique > > > > If you have those all installed, you should get exactly the same > > results as I get. > > > > On Sat, Feb 07, 2015 at 11:37:14PM -0800, la durka wrote: > > > I've been compiling both locally on OSX (ex: alexburka.com/tmp/cll_5.pdf (http://alexburka.com/tmp/cll_5.pdf)) > > > and with my git-auto-updating-gizmo on a Debian server (ex: > > > alexburka.com/lojban/cll_5.pdf (http://alexburka.com/lojban/cll_5.pdf)) and getting wildly different fonts. > > > Specifically, with the font I get on Linux I'm having to split a lot of > > > examples to prevent them overflowing the page. So which font (or neither) > > > is the one you will use when building the real PDF? > > > > > > - mu'o mi'e la durkavore > > > > > > El viernes, 23 de enero de 2015, 17:07:00 (UTC-5), Robin Powell escribió: > > > > > > > > > > > [...] Content analysis details: (0.8 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: googlegroups.com] 2.7 DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL RBL: Envelope sender listed in dnsbl.ahbl.org [listed in googlegroups.com.rhsbl.ahbl.org. IN] [A] 0.0 T_HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS From and EnvelopeFrom 2nd level mail domains are different -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 RBL: Good reputation (+3) [209.85.213.58 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders They're mostly only used in the morphology chapter, IIRC. On Sun, Feb 08, 2015 at 03:17:21PM -0500, Alex Burka wrote: > Thanks much for the list! I installed these on the server but Prince stil= l didn't pick them up. I had to change the references in the CSS to explicl= tly "Linux Libertine O" and "Linux Biolinum O". I still don't see it using = Unifont or DejaVu Sans Mono anywhere, but I'm only testing chapter 5 at the= moment, so perhaps those are just not used there. =20 >=20 > - mu'o mi'e la durkavore =20 >=20 >=20 > On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 4:09 AM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: >=20 > > The CSS allows for *many* alternative fonts, just to be helpful :), > > but here's the actual primary font list: > > =20 > > prince: Converting document... > > prince: used font: Linux Libertine O, Bold > > prince: used font: Linux Libertine O, Regular > > prince: used font: Linux Libertine O, Italic > > prince: used font: Linux Biolinum O, Bold > > prince: used font: Linux Biolinum O, Regular > > prince: used font: DejaVu Serif, Bold > > prince: used font: DejaVu Serif, Book > > prince: used font: DejaVu Sans Mono, Book > > prince: used font: Linux Libertine O, Bold Italic > > prince: used font: Unifont, Medium > > prince: used font: Linux Biolinum O, Italic > > prince: used font: DejaVu Sans Mono, Oblique > > =20 > > If you have those all installed, you should get exactly the same > > results as I get. > > =20 > > On Sat, Feb 07, 2015 at 11:37:14PM -0800, la durka wrote: > > > I've been compiling both locally on OSX (ex: alexburka.com/tmp/cll_5.= pdf (http://alexburka.com/tmp/cll_5.pdf)) =20 > > > and with my git-auto-updating-gizmo on a Debian server (ex: =20 > > > alexburka.com/lojban/cll_5.pdf (http://alexburka.com/lojban/cll_5.pdf= )) and getting wildly different fonts. =20 > > > Specifically, with the font I get on Linux I'm having to split a lot = of =20 > > > examples to prevent them overflowing the page. So which font (or neit= her) =20 > > > is the one you will use when building the real PDF? > > > =20 > > > - mu'o mi'e la durkavore > > > =20 > > > El viernes, 23 de enero de 2015, 17:07:00 (UTC-5), Robin Powell escri= bi=C3=B3: > > > > =20 > > > > =20 > > > > Right now I'm working on table alignment and making sure the tables= =20 > > > > aren't too wide, which is easy stuff anybody able to handle github = =20 > > > > can help with. =20 > > > > =20 > > > > I'm on the docbook-prince branch; see for example =20 > > > > =20 > > > > https://github.com/lojban/cll/commit/1f13384d3ef48158011c6837e47202= 930a606abe =20 > > > > =20 > > > > The tables, of which there are many, are now = =20 > > > > strictly aligned by word, where "word" is defined as "not spaces". = =20 > > > > =20 > > > > So in the old version we might have had: =20 > > > > =20 > > > > mi cu klama =20 > > > > I go =20 > > > > =20 > > > > In the new version this would result in: =20 > > > > =20 > > > > mi cu klama =20 > > > > I go =20 > > > > =20 > > > > So I've been inserting - when there's no equivalent word, like so: = =20 > > > > =20 > > > > mi cu klama =20 > > > > I - go =20 > > > > =20 > > > > The other big one has been glossing "la" as "that-named". =20 > > > > =20 > > > > Anyways, there's *LOTS* of this sort of work to do; I could use som= e =20 > > > > help. =20 > > > > =20 > > > > THESE ARE CONTENT CHANGES PLEASE BE VERY CAREFUL. =20 > > > > =20 > > > > Send pull requests. Thanks! =20 > > > > =20 > > > > -- =20 > > > > http://intelligence.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic futu= re. =20 > > > > .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i dafsku lu na go'i li'u= .e =20 > > > > lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e= =20 > > > > lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofy= bakni =20 > > > > li'u =20 > > > > =20 > > > =20 > > > =20 > > > -- =20 > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gr= oups "lojban" group. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, sen= d an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com (mailto:lojban+unsubscrib= e@googlegroups.com). > > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com (mailto:= lojban@googlegroups.com). > > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > =20 > > =20 > > =20 > > =20 > > -- =20 > > http://intelligence.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. > > .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i dafsku lu na go'i li'u .e > > lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e > > lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakn= i li'u > > =20 > > -- =20 > > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the = Google Groups "lojban" group. > > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic= /lojban/8dLXPPf3dhc/unsubscribe. > > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to loj= ban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com (mailto:lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.co= m). > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com (mailto:lo= jban@googlegroups.com). > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > =20 > > =20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an= email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --=20 http://intelligence.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i dafsku lu na go'i li'u .e lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni li= 'u --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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