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Question: Do you agree or disagree with that > assertion? > Personally I agree that this is one way to think how sentences are constructed. If you want to compare it with Lojban it's a whole another story. Languages share many things in common but parsers can interpret the same sentence in a different way even within one language. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --047d7b86de4ef2919c050ee7f0ba Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= 2015-02-12 20:56 GMT+03:00 Hugh O'Byrne <hobyrne@gmail.com>:
Assertion: "From the sen= tence "Fred saw a plane flying over Munich", with those words in = that order and no parentheses or punctuation, there is more than one parse = tree".=C2=A0 Question: Do you agree or disagree with that assertion?
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Personally I agree that this is one way t= o think how sentences are constructed.

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If you want to compare it with Lojban it&#= 39;s a whole another story.
Languages share= many things in common but parsers can interpret the same sentence in a dif= ferent way even within one language.

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