Received: from mail-yk0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]:47610) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1YNTjB-0007zx-Vq for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 14:01:19 -0800 Received: by mail-yk0-f189.google.com with SMTP id 131sf8181503ykp.6 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 14:01:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=AmgUkG1Ucozk+gtoiPLeci2FjbWN/rRYus349t+ZrO4=; b=x5eZq7gGcWe5/zuLyUvA4vDpMEsEQyl3FO66yVRJBumGTL0R8B73E8rOAVeFmTzKtZ gomTt8Qu0h+8BMIwsbu5+u68qhLXmrA7bs6kjLHEFcB+WNs4r4MocoBuyzDUzdw4QPV6 TB+ZQiy2fSYsxFfc5rySoodt3AjcRPuDW5PaKeZcxP6IE4+RiGDsCXUz4D4jEV4eOh9D 2gbilSjS1LSgyp8b/ApFP9ZP+x5IMLKJyP1i7H3OO0Iw6BHFQJhzp3B0mesQNcNiBdzI 9jNKiOTJ1V5hNCREVfRCJHkB6XOEowIaL3aTIu6KLKL4hnwj06QiEYme9SZeZonJt7ET 7maQ== X-Received: by 10.50.253.1 with SMTP id zw1mr411947igc.11.1424124071784; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 14:01:11 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.28.8 with SMTP id x8ls1349464igg.11.gmail; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 14:01:11 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.66.97.38 with SMTP id dx6mr21588553pab.39.1424124071442; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 14:01:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qc0-x22e.google.com (mail-qc0-x22e.google.com. [2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22e]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q2si3584320qcn.2.2015.02.16.14.01.11 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 16 Feb 2015 14:01:11 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22e as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22e; Received: by mail-qc0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id c9so14573331qcz.5 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 14:01:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.107.75 with SMTP id g69mr1805466qgf.103.1424124071286; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 14:01:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.176.135 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 14:01:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 17:01:11 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] BPFK Section: Non-logical Connectives From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113a7994629dcc050f3bb993 X-Original-Sender: Mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22e as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - --001a113a7994629dcc050f3bb993 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 2:49 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section%3A+Non-logical+Connectives > > mi joi ry. ze'a casnu lo lijda ctuca tadji > Me and R have been discussing religious teaching methods. > > No, because lo casnu is specifically defined as being a mass, which "joi" creates > > Isn't this example wrong? > > What about the other two examples? Shouldn't {jo'u} or {ce} work better > here: > > la .djan. joi la .pitr. cu re mei > John and Peter are two. > > Again, no, because lo remei is defined as a mass. You could use ce to make lo se remei, though. And I believe that la djan jo'u la pitr would actually be two pamei, not a remei > la jegvon cu cevni le xriso joi le xebro joi le muslo > Jehovah is the god of the Christians, the Jews and the Muslims. > > You could use jo'u here, yes. --gejyspa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --001a113a7994629dcc050f3bb993 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 2:49 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.n= ame@gmail.com> wrote:
Me and R have been discussing religious teaching me= thods.


=C2=A0 No= , because lo casnu is specifically defined as being a mass, which "joi= " creates
=C2=A0

Isn't this example wrong?

What about the other two examples? Shouldn't {jo&#= 39;u} or {ce} work better here:

la .djan. joi= la .pitr. cu re mei
John and Peter are two.

=

=C2=A0 Again, no, because lo r= emei is defined as a mass.=C2=A0 You could use ce to make lo se remei, thou= gh.=C2=A0 And I believe that la djan jo'u la pitr would actually be two= pamei, not a remei

=C2=A0
la jegvon cu cevni le x= riso joi le xebro joi le muslo
Jehovah is the god of the Christia= ns, the Jews and the Muslims.

=C2=A0 You could use jo'u here,= yes.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0--gejyspa

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