Received: from mail-we0-f185.google.com ([74.125.82.185]:35191) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1YP52X-0005QT-Ub for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2015 00:03:58 -0800 Received: by wevk48 with SMTP id k48sf2741355wev.2 for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2015 00:03:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=RTMp1kaighvaticmTNXMOo7acOmB6VB8SglibmWpBz0=; b=K0kIweThhDppUWG8Vl+npEUqOrEdiXZ8eNk+hIA6aK2ch0BPE0engmDwwJGnVncXw5 YHADmjrA2c8eTQ+xJFatsEP8XLnlW3Cf3QyVocv5kefzoDv3wJmay1xWubIsc1YHyCiJ JPwC/33bt/tUZD//yj/rPeppBLfW8mNOYvpcMQIkbn0vwVFztJ+IDa5iMc12UsNOxhFT koa7VtAYUeimL/rMEvNqdDzMtqXfjQD0qv0G9yywMEx9Jb7HNcYcwev4JoSgGYPYRDzU nEcO0s+lzTSmCjRiDkyDp+ScAh10xPK2d83YiQtZski1b50I/kBaiQ6CPv0PqmT37S9F GtvA== X-Received: by 10.180.188.168 with SMTP id gb8mr6636wic.20.1424505827425; Sat, 21 Feb 2015 00:03:47 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.74.49 with SMTP id q17ls240973wiv.3.canary; Sat, 21 Feb 2015 00:03:45 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.194.239.41 with SMTP id vp9mr185693wjc.5.1424505825949; Sat, 21 Feb 2015 00:03:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wg0-x232.google.com (mail-wg0-x232.google.com. [2a00:1450:400c:c00::232]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o3si249854wib.2.2015.02.21.00.03.45 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 21 Feb 2015 00:03:45 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::232 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c00::232; Received: by mail-wg0-f50.google.com with SMTP id l2so16871960wgh.9 for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2015 00:03:45 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.194.60.77 with SMTP id f13mr2591103wjr.105.1424505825853; Sat, 21 Feb 2015 00:03:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.86.200 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Feb 2015 00:03:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <2014242.CzSLCGSKVN@caracal> References: <2014242.CzSLCGSKVN@caracal> From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 11:03:25 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] orc To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b86db8abb09b9050f949b7a X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::232 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - --047d7b86db8abb09b9050f949b7a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2015-02-21 1:45 GMT+03:00 Pierre Abbat : > {orko} is glossed as "orc" or "orch" (the latter spelling is from > Sindarin). > {orka} means a kind of cetacean. The two words differ only in the final > vowel, > which means that if they are rafsi fu'ivla, then they collide. xunai do pu stidi tu'a zo berbere e zo berberi vau u'i > Are they rafsi > fu'ivla? I don't remember about words that begin with a vowel, except that > if > a rafsi is put before them, an apostrophe is inserted as an interfix, e.g. > {miky'enri}. > > If they do collide, I suggest the following instead of {orko}: > {orxo}, from Sindarin; > {gorguni}, from Druadan. > > Pierre > -- > sei do'anai mi'a djuno puze'e noroi nalselganse srera > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --047d7b86db8abb09b9050f949b7a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


2015-02-21 1:45 GMT+03:00 Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org>:
{orko} is glossed as "orc" = or "orch" (the latter spelling is from Sindarin).
{orka} means a kind of cetacean. The two words differ only in the final vow= el,
which means that if they are rafsi fu'ivla, then they collide.

xunai do pu stidi tu'a zo berbere e zo berberi = =C2=A0vau u'i
Are they rafsi
fu'ivla? I don't remember about words that begin with a vowel, exce= pt that if
a rafsi is put before them, an apostrophe is inserted as an interfix, e.g.<= br> {miky'enri}.

If they do collide, I suggest the following instead of {orko}:
{orxo}, from Sindarin;
{gorguni}, from Druadan.

Pierre
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