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Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2015 16:52:29 +0300
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2015-03-02 16:42 GMT+03:00 Hugh O'Byrne <hobyrne@gmail.com>:

> There's more here than I understand.  How you would handle a particular
> case I have in mind would help clear things up.
>
> "Time flies like an arrow" can be used to mean a command: use a stopwatch
> to measure the motion of insects in the same way you would use a stopwatch
> to measure the motion of a projectile from a bow, or an observation: the
> hours pass by as swiftly as a projectile from a bow passes.
>
> In one case, "Time" is a verb, imperative, in the other, it is a noun, the
> subject of the verb "fly".  Verbs and nouns are different grammatical
> entities, they sit at different places in parse trees.  This makes the
> distinction between interpretations clearer than the example "Fred saw a
> plane flying over Zurich".
>
> Can you construct a single parse tree for the sentence "Time flies like an
> arrow" that is complete with respect to both interpretations of the
> sentence, or would you consider this not to be a proper English sentence,
> or is there something else to say about this case?
>

Earlier I asked And whether we were talking about polysemy and he replied
that no.

Read the first post in this thread once again please. I clearly separated
cases with polysemy:

<quoting myself>
E. Such links as http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=17431 don't
provide nice examples since they mix polysemy with possible multiparsing.
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tyle:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">There&#39;s more here than I =
understand.=C2=A0 How you would handle a particular case I have in mind wou=
ld help clear things up.<div><br></div><div>&quot;Time flies like an arrow&=
quot; can be used to mean a command: use a stopwatch to measure the motion =
of insects in the same way you would use a stopwatch to measure the motion =
of a projectile from a bow, or an observation: the hours pass by as swiftly=
 as a projectile from a bow passes.</div><div><br></div><div>In one case, &=
quot;Time&quot; is a verb, imperative, in the other, it is a noun, the subj=
ect of the verb &quot;fly&quot;.=C2=A0 Verbs and nouns are different gramma=
tical entities, they sit at different places in parse trees.=C2=A0 This mak=
es the distinction between interpretations clearer than the example &quot;F=
red saw a plane flying over Zurich&quot;.</div><div><br></div><div>Can you =
construct a single parse tree for the sentence &quot;Time flies like an arr=
ow&quot; that is complete with respect to both interpretations of the sente=
nce, or would you consider this not to be a proper English sentence, or is =
there something else to say about this case?</div></div></blockquote><div><=
br></div><div>Earlier I asked And whether we were talking about polysemy an=
d he replied that no.</div><div><br></div><div>Read the first post in this =
thread once again please. I clearly separated cases with polysemy:</div><di=
v><br></div><div>&lt;quoting myself&gt;</div><div><div>E. Such links as <a =
href=3D"http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=3D17431">http://languagelog=
.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=3D17431</a> don&#39;t provide nice examples since the=
y mix polysemy with possible multiparsing.</div></div><div>&lt;/quote&gt;</=
div></div></div></div>

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