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Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban changes to hanzi writing system
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And Happy April One to you, Ranger Rick.


Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 1, 2015, at 03:19, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wro=
te:
>=20
> Some people complained that although the spelling in Lojban is very easy =
to grasp the grammar is not.
>=20
> So the committee for the development of Lojban (BPFK) decided to fix this=
 issue and to make the spelling hard as well.
> Especially for those people who are not familiar with hanzi (Chinese char=
acters).
>=20
> This is how Lojban writing will look like from now on:
>=20
> "=E6=88=91 =E7=88=B1 =E4=BD=A0" - new spelling.
> "I love you" - meaning.
> "mi prami do" - old spelling.
>=20
>=20
> "=E8=80=85 =E7=8C=AB =E6=98=AF =E5=96=9D =E8=80=85 =E4=B9=B3" - new spell=
ing.
> "A cat drinks milk" - meaning.
> "lo mlatu cu pinxe lo ladru" - old spelling.
>=20
>=20
> Those who can read hanzi have already laughed at it.
> But let's stop giggling and start getting used to it.
>=20
> A. Every root verb (gismu) is mapped to one hanzi or a combination  of tw=
o hanzi.
> B. Every verb made of affixes (lujvo) is created by joining gismu (verbs =
corresponding to each affix) together using "-".
> C. particles (cmavo) also have corresponding hanzi.
> Words are separated with spaces.
>=20
> I created a tool La Naxle
> http://vrici.lojban.org/~gleki/mediawiki-1.19.2/extensions/ilmentufa/ircb=
ot/naxle.html
>=20
> It can do several things:
> 1. By entering a text into {ko ciska fi ti} field and pressing "Split" yo=
u can prettify the text like this:
> 1a. Spaces are inserted where needed thus {lonu} is turned into {lo  nu}.
> 1b. Lujvo are unwrapped into {zei}-lujvo thus {muvgau} is turned into {mu=
vdu zei gasnu}. This makes the text easier to read for beginners.
> 1c. However, for SE-lujvo only spaces are added: {selterselcpedu} is turn=
ed into {se te se cpedu} since we assume that they mean the same.
> So instead of {minelci lonu do muvgau lo jubme} you get {mi nelci lo nu d=
o muvdu zei gasnu lo jubme} - the output is prettified.
>=20
> 2. By pressing "anji ( =E6=BC=A2=E5=AD=97 )" the same is done but the tex=
t is additionally hanzi-fied.
>=20
> The conversion dictionary isn't yet complete so we are waiting for more s=
uggestions from you of hanzi correspondences for Lojban words.
>=20
> 3. Additionally various buttons for searching in jbovlaste (live Lojban d=
ictionary) and La Bangu (revised) dictionary are added, English dictionarie=
s for other languages like Laadan, toki pona and Loglan are supported.
> 4. It's possible to get the output of the main syntactic parsers: camxes.=
js, jbofi'e and YACC.
> 5. An alpha-stage Loglan-Lojban converter is available.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=
=3Dutf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>And Happy April One to you, Ranger=
 Rick.</div><div><br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Apr 1, 2015, at=
 03:19, Gleki Arxokuna &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com">gl=
eki.is.my.name@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Some people complained that although the spelling=
 in Lojban is very easy to grasp the grammar is not.<div><br></div><div>So =
the committee for the development of Lojban (BPFK) decided to fix this issu=
e and to make the spelling hard as well.</div><div>Especially for those peo=
ple who are not familiar with hanzi (Chinese characters).</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>This is how Lojban writing will look like from now on:</div><div><b=
r></div><div>"=E6=88=91 =E7=88=B1 =E4=BD=A0" - new spelling.</div><div>"I l=
ove you" - meaning.<br></div><div><div>"mi prami do" - old spelling.</div><=
/div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>"=E8=80=85 =E7=8C=AB =E6=98=AF=
 =E5=96=9D =E8=80=85 =E4=B9=B3" - new spelling.</div></div><div>"A cat drin=
ks milk" - meaning.<br></div><div><div>"lo mlatu cu pinxe lo ladru" - old s=
pelling.</div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Those who can read h=
anzi have already laughed at it.</div><div>But let's stop giggling and star=
t getting used to it.</div><div><br></div><div>A. Every root verb (gismu) i=
s mapped to one hanzi or a combination &nbsp;of two hanzi.</div><div>B. Eve=
ry verb made of affixes (lujvo) is created by joining gismu (verbs correspo=
nding to each affix) together using "-".</div><div>C. particles (cmavo) als=
o have corresponding hanzi.</div><div>Words are separated with spaces.<br><=
/div><div><br></div><div>I created a tool La Naxle</div><div><a href=3D"htt=
p://vrici.lojban.org/~gleki/mediawiki-1.19.2/extensions/ilmentufa/ircbot/na=
xle.html" target=3D"_blank">http://vrici.lojban.org/~gleki/mediawiki-1.19.2=
/extensions/ilmentufa/ircbot/naxle.html</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>It=
 can do several things:</div><div>1. By entering a text into {ko ciska fi t=
i} field and pressing "Split" you can prettify the text like this:</div><di=
v>1a. Spaces are inserted where needed thus {lonu} is turned into {lo &nbsp=
;nu}.</div><div>1b. Lujvo are unwrapped into {zei}-lujvo thus {muvgau} is t=
urned into {muvdu zei gasnu}. This makes the text easier to read for beginn=
ers.</div><div>1c. However, for SE-lujvo only spaces are added: {selterselc=
pedu} is turned into {se te se cpedu} since we assume that they mean the sa=
me.</div><div>So instead of {minelci lonu do muvgau lo jubme} you get {mi n=
elci lo nu do muvdu zei gasnu lo jubme} - the output is prettified.</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>2. By pressing "anji ( =E6=BC=A2=E5=AD=97 )" the same is =
done but the text is additionally hanzi-fied.</div><div><br></div><div>The =
conversion dictionary isn't yet complete so we are waiting for more suggest=
ions from you of hanzi correspondences for Lojban words.</div><div><br></di=
v><div>3. Additionally various buttons for searching in jbovlaste (live Loj=
ban dictionary) and La Bangu (revised) dictionary are added, English dictio=
naries for other languages like Laadan, toki pona and Loglan are supported.=
</div><div>4. It's possible to get the output of the main syntactic parsers=
: camxes.js, jbofi'e and YACC.</div><div>5. An alpha-stage Loglan-Lojban co=
nverter is available.</div></div>

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