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2015-04-15 7:39 GMT+03:00 Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org>:

> The word "star" is polysemous:
> 1. a heavenly body that emits light;
> 2. a non-convex shape that has a point from which all the inside can be
> seen;
> 3. a chief or excellent performer.
> Sense 1 is {tarci}. Sense 3 could be expressed by a lujvo, which I won't
> worry
> about right now. Sense 2, I think, deserves a gismu, but doesn't have one.
>
> I think that sense 2 deserves a gismu because it appears in several
> compounds:
>

Definition: x1 is a star non-convex polygon with x2 (number) regular pointy
protrusions and x2 indentations.

Or should we use a separate brivla for x2 to parallel other geometrical
mostly one-place brivla (ignoring "material" places)?
Or put it another way should geometry brivla parallel each other in their
place structure?
A separate question how do we define star being a regular one? Using
{kubli}, right?

Anyway, I can't see any language that would distinguish them probably
because human eye sees every star in the sky except the Sun with
protrusions i.e. as a "star polygon".

{stela} and {estrela} come to mind but they are taken by semantics of
{tarci} so it's be impolite to steal them. {stelatai} maybe.

Asterisk would be probably {astrisko}.

Also I can't find a word for "celestial body" in general like
"planet/star/dwarf planet/comet", {se kensa} is probably enough but {astro}
hasnt been taken by anything yet.


> starfish, star-nosed mole, stellated polyhedron. What do you think? What
> would
> be a good word for it?
>

Something that would  have mnemonic power but wouldn't be a false friend.
E.g. in Esperanto they usually change a vowel or a consonant so that two
meanings get separated.

>
> Pierre
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">2015-04-15 7:39 GMT+03:00 Pierre Abbat <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:phma@bezitopo.org" target=3D"_blank">phma@bezitopo.org</a>&gt;</spa=
n>:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;=
border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:=
solid;padding-left:1ex">The word &quot;star&quot; is polysemous:<br>
1. a heavenly body that emits light;<br>
2. a non-convex shape that has a point from which all the inside can be see=
n;<br>
3. a chief or excellent performer.<br>
Sense 1 is {tarci}. Sense 3 could be expressed by a lujvo, which I won&#39;=
t worry<br>
about right now. Sense 2, I think, deserves a gismu, but doesn&#39;t have o=
ne.<br>
<br>
I think that sense 2 deserves a gismu because it appears in several compoun=
ds:<br></blockquote><div><br><div>Definition: x1 is a star non-convex polyg=
on with x2 (number) regular pointy protrusions and x2 indentations.<br><br>=
Or should we use a separate brivla for x2 to parallel other geometrical mos=
tly one-place brivla (ignoring &quot;material&quot; places)?<br>Or put it a=
nother way should geometry brivla parallel each other in their place struct=
ure?<br>A separate question how do we define star being a regular one? Usin=
g {kubli}, right?<br><br>Anyway, I can&#39;t see any language that would di=
stinguish them probably because human eye sees every star in the sky except=
 the Sun with protrusions i.e. as a &quot;star polygon&quot;.<br><br>{stela=
} and {estrela} come to mind but they are taken by semantics of {tarci} so =
it&#39;s be impolite to steal them. {stelatai} maybe.<br><br>Asterisk would=
 be probably {astrisko}.<br><br>Also I can&#39;t find a word for &quot;cele=
stial body&quot; in general like &quot;planet/star/dwarf planet/comet&quot;=
, {se kensa} is probably enough but {astro} hasnt been taken by anything ye=
t.</div><div><br></div><br>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb=
(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
starfish, star-nosed mole, stellated polyhedron. What do you think? What wo=
uld<br>
be a good word for it?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Something that w=
ould =C2=A0have mnemonic power but wouldn&#39;t be a false friend. E.g. in =
Esperanto they usually change a vowel or a consonant so that two meanings g=
et separated.</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0p=
x 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border=
-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Pierre<br>
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