Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 02:05:34 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: [lojban] Re: star (shape)
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Le mercredi 15 avril 2015 13:39:19 UTC+9, Pierre Abbat a =C3=A9crit :
>
> The word "star" is polysemous:=20
> 1. a heavenly body that emits light;=20
> 2. a non-convex shape that has a point from which all the inside can be=
=20
> seen;=20
> 3. a chief or excellent performer.=20
> Sense 1 is {tarci}. Sense 3 could be expressed by a lujvo, which I won't=
=20
> worry=20
> about right now. Sense 2, I think, deserves a gismu, but doesn't have one=
.=20
>
> I think that sense 2 deserves a gismu because it appears in several=20
> compounds:=20
> starfish, star-nosed mole, stellated polyhedron. What do you think? What=
=20
> would=20
> be a good word for it?=20
>

=20

mi pu ze'u ca ze'u la'a ba ji'a jinvi lo du'u lo'e tarci cu na se tarmi=20
le'e tarci

Starfish are more like "se tarmi le'e tarci", and I guess the corresponding=
=20
words for "starfish" in many languages are derived from "star". I know only=
=20
two exceptions: "human-hand" in Japanese and "sea-plate-wheel" in Chinese.

I understand that gismu form should be created from words of natural=20
languages, but, in this case, I prefer creating it from lojban words for a=
=20
geometrical definition of stellation:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellation#Kepler.27s_definition

Maybe from :=20
terkubli tcena tarmi

for example, {kutmi}, {kutca} or something.

mu'o

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><br>Le mercredi 15 avril 2015 13:39:19 UTC+9, Pierre A=
bbat a =C3=A9crit&nbsp;:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: =
0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">The wo=
rd "star" is polysemous:
<br>1. a heavenly body that emits light;
<br>2. a non-convex shape that has a point from which all the inside can be=
 seen;
<br>3. a chief or excellent performer.
<br>Sense 1 is {tarci}. Sense 3 could be expressed by a lujvo, which I won'=
t worry=20
<br>about right now. Sense 2, I think, deserves a gismu, but doesn't have o=
ne.
<br>
<br>I think that sense 2 deserves a gismu because it appears in several com=
pounds:=20
<br>starfish, star-nosed mole, stellated polyhedron. What do you think? Wha=
t would=20
<br>be a good word for it?
<br>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>mi pu ze'u=
 ca ze'u la'a ba ji'a jinvi lo du'u lo'e tarci cu na se tarmi le'e tarci</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Starfish are more like "se tarmi le'e tarci", and I =
guess the corresponding words for "starfish" in many languages are derived =
from "star". I know only two exceptions: "human-hand" in Japanese and "sea-=
plate-wheel" in Chinese.</div><div><br></div><div>I understand that gismu f=
orm should be created from words of natural languages, but, in this case, I=
 prefer creating it from lojban words for a geometrical definition of stell=
ation:</div><div><br></div><div>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellation#Ke=
pler.27s_definition</div><div><br></div><div>Maybe from :&nbsp;</div><div>t=
erkubli tcena tarmi</div><div><br></div><div>for example, {kutmi}, {kutca} =
or something.</div><div><br></div><div>mu'o</div><div><br></div></div>

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