Received: from mail-wi0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]:34452) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1YiRqJ-0005BT-Lj for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 11:15:23 -0700 Received: by wivr20 with SMTP id r20sf19977114wiv.1 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 11:15:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:organization:user-agent:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=klP8DCMVTNjz7pnhvKo+cEAXQ0V5Ka8bPFEWUHtR7tk=; b=WueQD+Vy2yIfQgRfoLQ0qhM8dIxnhBhFIKbRMaDuvmXDdKNtF9Fa/ZMFNbdcyL2o2/ Gy6PL9jIa8Y4WPvYFksSTPqMnJ/Lp/SXk4ssinUanbaBH22OaGaOJDcZK/OKlX/0CgP5 UBuBXhUKdOrlellUmGByhMHJj/dJMeZa4fk52aBuWpmNfb2nKIogNJM194jzL/mUcUie qO6pEBFcMZKuWvaHhZP9vp1bz3aOziBwFEAZrm0Q7pO0Vt6HiUuGUg96K8goRR9eu9lF XFQH815NCG/DP+SBASF6yT5cvKNsMTzMF6SNS1kn4Asa5FEV0c8fSIC3NZkVnnwdE3Yt jQxA== X-Received: by 10.180.109.136 with SMTP id hs8mr2192wib.8.1429121713060; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 11:15:13 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.103.130 with SMTP id fw2ls413906wib.20.gmail; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 11:15:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.180.96.6 with SMTP id do6mr56051wib.4.1429121710855; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 11:15:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpo.poczta.interia.pl (smtpo.poczta.interia.pl. [217.74.65.159]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id su3si478705lbb.1.2015.04.15.11.15.10 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 15 Apr 2015 11:15:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jezuch@interia.pl designates 217.74.65.159 as permitted sender) client-ip=217.74.65.159; X-Interia-R: Interia X-Interia-R-IP: 83.28.156.117 X-Interia-R-Helo: Received: from zx-spectrum-1.localnet (bjo117.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.28.156.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by poczta.interia.pl (INTERIA.PL) with ESMTPSA for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 20:15:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Krzysztof Sobolewski To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Situation with ISO-fuhivla for countries. Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 20:15:09 +0200 Message-ID: <4880120.ePbJoLHNg4@zx-spectrum-1> Organization: Sobole User-Agent: KMail/4.14.2 (Linux/3.19.4; KDE/4.14.6; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Interia-Antivirus: OK X-Original-Sender: jezuch@interia.pl X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jezuch@interia.pl designates 217.74.65.159 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jezuch@interia.pl; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@interia.pl Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - Dnia =C5=9Broda, 15 kwietnia 2015 16:27:34 Gleki Arxokuna pisze: > 2015-04-15 16:24 GMT+03:00 Jonathan Jones : >=20 > > I've never liked the ISO valsi. As far as I'm concerned, this is just o= ne > > more reason not to use them. > > >=20 > Do you have an alternative list of all countries? Well, maybe let inhabitants of those countries decide? :) Say, Poland. It's Polska over here, but that fails right away because {lo p= olska} means something like "colours of Polynesia". It's pretty, but it mis= ses the mark by half the globe. If we insist on the -o ending, I personally= settled for {polco}. Somewhat awkward, Russian-sounding, but workable. BTW: An "alternative" name for Poland is Lechistan. But that falls apart as= {le xista[n]}. So who knows, maybe the gismu for Poland should be {xista} = with {le} as the mandatory gadri ;) (Yes, I know that in some cases there would not be consensus among said inh= abitants. There's a joke that where there are two Poles there are three opi= nions, so I guess my example is the worst of all...) --=20 Ecce Jezuch "To an engineer, everyone looks like a chimp" - Dilbert --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.