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Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 14:51:03 -0400
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Situation with ISO-fuhivla for countries.
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{.lexistan.} does not fragment; use Dotside to not be sad. Similarly {la
polska} is acceptable, although to a Lojbanist who does not know what you
mean they might think of "colors of Polynesia" before you explain.

mi'e la latro'a mu'o

On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Krzysztof Sobolewski <jezuch@interia.pl>
wrote:

> Dnia =C5=9Broda, 15 kwietnia 2015 16:27:34 Gleki Arxokuna pisze:
> > 2015-04-15 16:24 GMT+03:00 Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > I've never liked the ISO valsi. As far as I'm concerned, this is just
> one
> > > more reason not to use them.
> > >
> >
> > Do you have an alternative list of all countries?
>
> Well, maybe let inhabitants of those countries decide? :)
>
> Say, Poland. It's Polska over here, but that fails right away because {lo
> polska} means something like "colours of Polynesia". It's pretty, but it
> misses the mark by half the globe. If we insist on the -o ending, I
> personally settled for {polco}. Somewhat awkward, Russian-sounding, but
> workable.
>
> BTW: An "alternative" name for Poland is Lechistan. But that falls apart
> as {le xista[n]}. So who knows, maybe the gismu for Poland should be
> {xista} with {le} as the mandatory gadri ;)
>
> (Yes, I know that in some cases there would not be consensus among said
> inhabitants. There's a joke that where there are two Poles there are thre=
e
> opinions, so I guess my example is the worst of all...)
> --
> Ecce Jezuch
> "To an engineer, everyone looks like a chimp" - Dilbert
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>{.lexistan.} does not fragment; use Dotside to not be=
 sad. Similarly {la polska} is acceptable, although to a Lojbanist who does=
 not know what you mean they might think of &quot;colors of Polynesia&quot;=
 before you explain.<br><br></div>mi&#39;e la latro&#39;a mu&#39;o<br></div=
><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 15, =
2015 at 2:15 PM, Krzysztof Sobolewski <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:jezuch@interia.pl" target=3D"_blank">jezuch@interia.pl</a>&gt;</span> wr=
ote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border=
-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dnia =C5=9Broda, 15 kwietnia 2015 16=
:27:34 Gleki Arxokuna pisze:<br>
<span class=3D"">&gt; 2015-04-15 16:24 GMT+03:00 Jonathan Jones &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com">eyeonus@gmail.com</a>&gt;:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; I&#39;ve never liked the ISO valsi. As far as I&#39;m concerned, =
this is just one<br>
&gt; &gt; more reason not to use them.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Do you have an alternative list of all countries?<br>
<br>
</span>Well, maybe let inhabitants of those countries decide? :)<br>
<br>
Say, Poland. It&#39;s Polska over here, but that fails right away because {=
lo polska} means something like &quot;colours of Polynesia&quot;. It&#39;s =
pretty, but it misses the mark by half the globe. If we insist on the -o en=
ding, I personally settled for {polco}. Somewhat awkward, Russian-sounding,=
 but workable.<br>
<br>
BTW: An &quot;alternative&quot; name for Poland is Lechistan. But that fall=
s apart as {le xista[n]}. So who knows, maybe the gismu for Poland should b=
e {xista} with {le} as the mandatory gadri ;)<br>
<br>
(Yes, I know that in some cases there would not be consensus among said inh=
abitants. There&#39;s a joke that where there are two Poles there are three=
 opinions, so I guess my example is the worst of all...)<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">--<br>
Ecce Jezuch<br>
&quot;To an engineer, everyone looks like a chimp&quot; - Dilbert<br>
</font></span><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
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