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[69.168.97.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v1si1186727igk.0.2015.04.15.20.18.32 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 15 Apr 2015 20:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: none (google.com: phma@bezitopo.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) client-ip=69.168.97.48; X-Authed-Username: cGhtYUBodWdoZXMubmV0 X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=Tsff2lnh c=1 sm=0 tr=0 a=8WxDmEN+yG9ijBF2nxzWZQ==:117 a=8WxDmEN+yG9ijBF2nxzWZQ==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=zx0GPhIIxR8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=JNFw9bs7AAAA:8 a=e9J7MTPGsLIA:10 a=qW1vrz8mfxrXEXOfn-IA:9 a=W9TB-_HPqNXMrufm:21 a=Nv4Mu3dnMWNfUxkk:21 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Received-SPF: neutral (smtp02.hughes.cmh.synacor.com: 45.37.90.97 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of bezitopo.org) Received: from [45.37.90.97] ([45.37.90.97:51195] helo=bezitopo.org) by smtp.hughes.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-SHA) id 01/69-05740-80A2F255; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 23:18:32 -0400 Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bezitopo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F4F7002 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 23:18:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] star (shape) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 23:18:28 -0400 Message-ID: <2058714.f1bomGzgxz@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.13.3 (Linux/3.13.0-48-generic; KDE/4.13.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <4144143.LNURNV54kV@caracal> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=none (google.com: phma@bezitopo.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - On Wednesday, April 15, 2015 09:28:38 Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > Definition: x1 is a star non-convex polygon with x2 (number) regular poin= ty > protrusions and x2 indentations. >=20 > Or should we use a separate brivla for x2 to parallel other geometrical > mostly one-place brivla (ignoring "material" places)? > Or put it another way should geometry brivla parallel each other in their > place structure? > A separate question how do we define star being a regular one? Using > {kubli}, right? There are various senses of "regular" in mathematics, some of which are bet= ter=20 expressed by {dikni}. In this case, a 6-pointed star cu dikni fi lo julra'o= be=20 li 60 gi'enai kubli. A 5-pointed star could be said to kubli, if drawn with= 5=20 segments; in some interpretation the number of sides is 2.5. > Anyway, I can't see any language that would distinguish them probably > because human eye sees every star in the sky except the Sun with > protrusions i.e. as a "star polygon". I checked Wiktionary. All the natlang words referring to the star shape are= =20 also words for stars in the sky. This is not true of movie stars (e.g.=20 vedette). > {stela} and {estrela} come to mind but they are taken by semantics of > {tarci} so it's be impolite to steal them. {stelatai} maybe. We can't use {stela} unless we take {ckiku} to it. > Asterisk would be probably {astrisko}. I've seen {tarci bu}. We could also use { bu}, once= we=20 decide what to call the star shape. > Also I can't find a word for "celestial body" in general like > "planet/star/dwarf planet/comet", {se kensa} is probably enough but {astr= o} > hasnt been taken by anything yet. {astro} sounds good. However, {astra} is already entered as a plant of the= =20 genus Aster. Pierre --=20 When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates. J=C3=A1 n=C3=A3o percebe nada, j=C3=A1 n=C3=A3o percebe nada. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.