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On Fri, May 08, 2015 at 04:53:42PM +0300, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
> 2015-05-08 15:53 GMT+03:00 Spheniscine <spheniscine@gmail.com>:
> > Actually Pater Noster is clearly {mi'a}, since the "our" clearly doesn't
> > include the addressee (God/the Father).
> 
> Who knows, maybe Father is the father of himself.

I'm not a Christian, but is that even a *possible* interpretation?
It sounds ridiculous to me.

> Also {ma'a} is possible like e.g. Father not only of Christians but even
> those who don't believe in Him.
> [...]
> {mi'a} would mean here something completely different and for some it may
> sound egoistic.

Sorry, you lost me. Why wouldn't {mi'a} include others?
The addressee is clearly the Father, not heathens.
Both {mi'a} and {ma'a} include "& others unspecified" in their definition.


v4hn

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