Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 01:04:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: Spheniscine <spheniscine@gmail.com>
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Subject: [lojban] Proposal for new cmavo: {vau'u}
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I think it might be useful to have a new cmavo, {vau'u}, which is in its 
own selma'o. It would act as a "super famyma'o / super vau"; acting as any 
number of {vau}s needed to close off a sentence.

Why? Attitudinals, mostly; it'd allow adding attitudinals as an 
afterthought, attaching it to the entire sentence rather than the last 
thing in it. {vau} is sufficient for simple sentences (e.g. {do sidju mi 
vau ui}), but more complex sentences with subclauses at the end may require 
several {vau}, which just feels wrong. For example

Instead of: {do sidju mi lo nu mi zenba lo ni ricfu vau vau vau ui} 
You can have: {do sidju mi lo nu mi zenba lo ni ricfu vau'u ui}

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I think it might be useful to have a new cmavo, {vau'u}, w=
hich is in its own selma'o. It would act as a "super famyma'o / super vau";=
 acting as any number of {vau}s needed to close off a sentence.<div><br></d=
iv><div>Why? Attitudinals, mostly; it'd allow adding attitudinals as an aft=
erthought, attaching it to the entire sentence rather than the last thing i=
n it. {vau} is sufficient for simple sentences (e.g. {do sidju mi vau ui}),=
 but more complex sentences with subclauses at the end may require several =
{vau}, which just feels wrong. For example</div><div><br></div><div>Instead=
 of: {do sidju mi lo nu mi zenba lo ni ricfu vau vau vau ui}&nbsp;</div><di=
v>You can have: {do sidju mi lo nu mi zenba lo ni ricfu vau'u ui}<br></div>=
</div>

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