Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 06:00:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Spheniscine <spheniscine@gmail.com>
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Subject: [lojban] Re: Proposal for new cmavo: {vau'u}
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Actually, instead of pretending to be a string of {vau}, perhaps it'd be 
better just for it to auto-close with all famyma'o that a simple {.i} would 
(but without actually starting a new sentence). This way it can even close 
off sentences that do not actually have bridi (and thus no possible {vau}); 
for example {coi lo tavla pe la .lojban. vau'u ui}. Will probably be easier 
to code too.

On Sunday, May 10, 2015 at 4:04:48 PM UTC+8, Spheniscine wrote:
>
> I think it might be useful to have a new cmavo, {vau'u}, which is in its 
> own selma'o. It would act as a "super famyma'o / super vau"; acting as any 
> number of {vau}s needed to close off a sentence.
>
> Why? Attitudinals, mostly; it'd allow adding attitudinals as an 
> afterthought, attaching it to the entire sentence rather than the last 
> thing in it. {vau} is sufficient for simple sentences (e.g. {do sidju mi 
> vau ui}), but more complex sentences with subclauses at the end may require 
> several {vau}, which just feels wrong. For example
>
> Instead of: {do sidju mi lo nu mi zenba lo ni ricfu vau vau vau ui} 
> You can have: {do sidju mi lo nu mi zenba lo ni ricfu vau'u ui}
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Actually, instead of pretending to be a string of {vau}, p=
erhaps it'd be better just for it to auto-close with all famyma'o that a si=
mple {.i} would (but without actually starting a new sentence). This way it=
 can even close off sentences that do not actually have bridi (and thus no =
possible {vau}); for example {coi lo tavla pe la .lojban. vau'u ui}. Will p=
robably be easier to code too.<div><br>On Sunday, May 10, 2015 at 4:04:48 P=
M UTC+8, Spheniscine wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">I think it might be useful to have a new cmavo, {vau'u}, whic=
h is in its own selma'o. It would act as a "super famyma'o / super vau"; ac=
ting as any number of {vau}s needed to close off a sentence.<div><br></div>=
<div>Why? Attitudinals, mostly; it'd allow adding attitudinals as an aftert=
hought, attaching it to the entire sentence rather than the last thing in i=
t. {vau} is sufficient for simple sentences (e.g. {do sidju mi vau ui}), bu=
t more complex sentences with subclauses at the end may require several {va=
u}, which just feels wrong. For example</div><div><br></div><div>Instead of=
: {do sidju mi lo nu mi zenba lo ni ricfu vau vau vau ui}&nbsp;</div><div>Y=
ou can have: {do sidju mi lo nu mi zenba lo ni ricfu vau'u ui}<br></div></d=
iv></blockquote></div></div>

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