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[2607:f8b0:4002:c07::230]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 48si679524yhx.3.2015.05.10.21.36.57 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 10 May 2015 21:36:57 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4002:c07::230 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4002:c07::230; Received: by ykft189 with SMTP id t189so34386320ykf.1 for ; Sun, 10 May 2015 21:36:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.236.32.136 with SMTP id o8mr8839790yha.162.1431319017456; Sun, 10 May 2015 21:36:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.129.73.3 with HTTP; Sun, 10 May 2015 21:36:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <3a378de3-6fd3-44c1-ae6e-960ef6ee27ea@googlegroups.com> <4183774c-dee7-412d-80fc-a22fd8c9cc7b@googlegroups.com> <8e9c9536-f830-42f3-8414-48fd3ae740d2@googlegroups.com> From: MorphemeAddict Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 00:36:27 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Proposal for new cmavo: {vau'u} To: lojban@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0158c764988ad30515c6ed56 X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4002:c07::230 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_bar: - --089e0158c764988ad30515c6ed56 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is any kind of a running count of open structures kept in the parser as it parses a text or utterance? stevo On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas wrote: > > On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Spheniscine > wrote: > >> >> Perhaps we could make {vau'u} the famyma'o of the unit of a sentence >> (though in attempting to make sense of the parser output, my second >> bridi-less sentence doesn't seem to produce a structure called "sentence= "; >> is there no structure that describes the construct between two {.i}, or >> between the start of the text / NIhO and the first {.i}?). >> > > The constructs separated by ".i" are either "statement" or "fragment". Th= e > latter I believe is on its way out though. It gets a little more > complicated with ".i je" and ".i [je] tag bo". > > >> Or if it's too difficult to come up with a solution now, we could treat >> VAUhU like I as a temporary "hack" solution. >> > > An indicator attached to ".i" normally applies to the following sentence, > and one attached to "vau'u" of selma'o I might as well apply to the > preceding one. Or you could make "vau'u" an elidable terminator for > "statement". > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. 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Is any kind of a running count of open structures kept in th= e parser as it parses a text or utterance?=C2=A0

stevo

On Sun, May 10,= 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sun, May = 10, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Spheniscine <spheniscine@gmail.com> wrote:

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Perhaps we could make {vau'u} the famyma'o of the unit of a se= ntence (though in attempting to make sense of the parser output, my second = bridi-less sentence doesn't seem to produce a structure called "se= ntence"; is there no structure that describes the construct between tw= o {.i}, or between the start of the text / NIhO and the first {.i}?).

The constructs separated by = ".i" are either "statement" or "fragment". Th= e latter I believe is on its way out though. It gets a little more complica= ted with ".i je" and ".i [je] tag bo".
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Or if it's too difficult to come up with a solution now, we could trea= t VAUhU like I as a temporary "hack" solution.

An indicator attached to ".i" no= rmally applies to the following sentence, and one attached to "vau'= ;u" of selma'o I might as well apply to the preceding one. Or you = could make "vau'u" an elidable terminator for "statement= ".=C2=A0

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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