Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 20:38:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Spheniscine (la zipcpi)" <spheniscine@gmail.com>
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Subject: [lojban] Re: Proposal for new cmavo: {vau'u}
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So, any particular objections against allocating {xau} for this proposal? 
Seriously, I really use it quite often; I feel that the language has been 
missing a proper, context-free way of including attitudinals (and even 
other UI-cmavo, like {xu}) as an afterthought.

If not, I'm adding it to the jbovlaste database, under sub-selma'o UI7 
(shared with bu'o).

On Sunday, May 10, 2015 at 4:04:48 PM UTC+8, Spheniscine (la zipcpi) wrote:
>
> I think it might be useful to have a new cmavo, {vau'u}, which is in its 
> own selma'o. It would act as a "super famyma'o / super vau"; acting as any 
> number of {vau}s needed to close off a sentence.
>
> Why? Attitudinals, mostly; it'd allow adding attitudinals as an 
> afterthought, attaching it to the entire sentence rather than the last 
> thing in it. {vau} is sufficient for simple sentences (e.g. {do sidju mi 
> vau ui}), but more complex sentences with subclauses at the end may require 
> several {vau}, which just feels wrong. For example
>
> Instead of: {do sidju mi lo nu mi zenba lo ni ricfu vau vau vau ui} 
> You can have: {do sidju mi lo nu mi zenba lo ni ricfu vau'u ui}
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">So, any particular objections against allocating {xau} for=
 this proposal? Seriously, I really use it quite often; I feel that the lan=
guage has been missing a proper, context-free way of including attitudinals=
 (and even other UI-cmavo, like {xu}) as an afterthought.<div><br></div><di=
v>If not, I'm adding it to the jbovlaste database, under sub-selma'o UI7 (s=
hared with bu'o).<br><br>On Sunday, May 10, 2015 at 4:04:48 PM UTC+8, Sphen=
iscine (la zipcpi) wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div =
dir=3D"ltr">I think it might be useful to have a new cmavo, {vau'u}, which =
is in its own selma'o. It would act as a "super famyma'o / super vau"; acti=
ng as any number of {vau}s needed to close off a sentence.<div><br></div><d=
iv>Why? Attitudinals, mostly; it'd allow adding attitudinals as an aftertho=
ught, attaching it to the entire sentence rather than the last thing in it.=
 {vau} is sufficient for simple sentences (e.g. {do sidju mi vau ui}), but =
more complex sentences with subclauses at the end may require several {vau}=
, which just feels wrong. For example</div><div><br></div><div>Instead of: =
{do sidju mi lo nu mi zenba lo ni ricfu vau vau vau ui}&nbsp;</div><div>You=
 can have: {do sidju mi lo nu mi zenba lo ni ricfu vau'u ui}<br></div></div=
></blockquote></div></div>

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