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Subject: Re: [lojban] Possible polysemy clashes for "regular affixes" in lujvo?
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2015-05-12 16:42 GMT+03:00 Spheniscine (la zipcpi) <spheniscine@gmail.com>:

> Certain gismu have, over time, become treated like "prefixes" and
> "suffixes"; they are used for many lujvo, and they make them in a highly
> predictable manner.
>
> For example: {zabna binxo -> zanbi'o "to (improve/change in a favorable
> manner)"} is treated as {zabna fa lo nu X1 binxo X2 X3 [X4 ...]}
> While {binxo gasnu -> bixygau "to (change something else / cause something
> else to change)"} is treated as {X1 gasnu lo nu X2 binxo X3 X4 [X5 ...]}
>
> Unfortunately this causes clashes when two "promiscuous" gismu meet! What
> exactly would {zangau} mean?
>
> It could mean {zabna fa lo nu X1 gasnu X2} (roughly "does good deeds /
> does favors"), or it could mean {X1 gasnu lo nu X2 zabna X3 X4} (possibly
> "to bless")!
>

Neither zanbi'o nor zangau are in the dictionary.
1. I wouldn't create any words that lack roots. If they lack then they are
naljvajvo/cimjvo.
2. In other cases I would perceive suffixes as winning over prefixes i.e.
like tanru work (expanding starts from the end).

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te">2015-05-12 16:42 GMT+03:00 Spheniscine (la zipcpi) <span dir=3D"ltr">&l=
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Certain gismu have, over time, become treated like &quot;prefixes&quot; and=
 &quot;suffixes&quot;; they are used for many lujvo, and they make them in =
a highly predictable manner.<div><br></div><div>For example: {zabna binxo -=
&gt; zanbi&#39;o &quot;to (improve/change in a favorable manner)&quot;} is =
treated as {zabna fa lo nu X1 binxo X2 X3 [X4 ...]}</div><div>While {binxo =
gasnu -&gt; bixygau &quot;to (change something else / cause something else =
to change)&quot;} is treated as {X1 gasnu lo nu X2 binxo X3 X4 [X5 ...]}</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Unfortunately this causes clashes when two &quot;pro=
miscuous&quot; gismu meet! What exactly would {zangau} mean?</div><div><br>=
</div><div>It could mean {zabna fa lo nu X1 gasnu X2} (roughly &quot;does g=
ood deeds / does favors&quot;), or it could mean {X1 gasnu lo nu X2 zabna X=
3 X4} (possibly &quot;to bless&quot;)!</div></div></blockquote><div><br></d=
iv><div>Neither zanbi&#39;o nor zangau are in the dictionary.</div><div>1. =
I wouldn&#39;t create any words that lack roots. If they lack then they are=
 naljvajvo/cimjvo.</div><div>2. In other cases I would perceive suffixes as=
 winning over prefixes i.e. like tanru work (expanding starts from the end)=
.</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-=
left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D=
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