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Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 17:56:00 +0300
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Possible polysemy clashes for "regular affixes" in lujvo?
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2015-05-12 17:51 GMT+03:00 Spheniscine (la zipcpi) <spheniscine@gmail.com>:

> la gleki cu cusku di'e
>
>
>> Neither zanbi'o nor zangau are in the dictionary.
>> 1. I wouldn't create any words that lack roots. If they lack then they
>> are naljvajvo/cimjvo.
>> 2. In other cases I would perceive suffixes as winning over prefixes i.e.
>> like tanru work (expanding starts from the end).
>>
>
> Actually, that's kinda part of the problem. Like I've said, they've kinda
> become extremely common prefixes/suffixes like English "un-" or "-er", so
> adding every possible useful combination to the dictionary is a Herculean
> effort beyond what little people we have maintaining it in their spare
> time. {zabna} and {mabla} are especially bad this way, as their rafsi {zan}
> and {mal} has been combined with almost anything to mean "X in a favorable
> / disfavorable manner; X with a positive / negative connotation"
>

I can't see any arbitrariness in that. If they turned into suffixes having
certain rules of expansion then it's a matter of describing those rules.

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he problem. Like I&#39;ve said, they&#39;ve kinda become extremely common p=
refixes/suffixes like English &quot;un-&quot; or &quot;-er&quot;, so adding=
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beyond what little people we have maintaining it in their spare time. {zabn=
a} and {mabla} are especially bad this way, as their rafsi {zan} and {mal} =
has been combined with almost anything to mean &quot;X in a favorable / dis=
favorable manner; X with a positive / negative connotation&quot;</div></div=
></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I can&#39;t see any arbitrariness in that=
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