Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 10:15:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Spheniscine (la zipcpi)" <spheniscine@gmail.com>
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Subject: [lojban] Re: Proposal for new cmavo: {vau'u}
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My main argument for it being monosyllabic is that I want it to completely 
supercede {vau} for use with afterthought attitudinals, and so that we can 
tell beginners "If you want to add attitudinals to the end of a sentence 
and you don't want it to merely apply to the last thing you said, use 
this", and it'll be correct regardless of how many (if any) bridi the 
sentence has left open.

But fine... I'll add it to the jbovlaste for now as {vau'u}.

On Sunday, May 10, 2015 at 4:04:48 PM UTC+8, Spheniscine (la zipcpi) wrote:
>
> I think it might be useful to have a new cmavo, {vau'u}, which is in its 
> own selma'o. It would act as a "super famyma'o / super vau"; acting as any 
> number of {vau}s needed to close off a sentence.
>
> Why? Attitudinals, mostly; it'd allow adding attitudinals as an 
> afterthought, attaching it to the entire sentence rather than the last 
> thing in it. {vau} is sufficient for simple sentences (e.g. {do sidju mi 
> vau ui}), but more complex sentences with subclauses at the end may require 
> several {vau}, which just feels wrong. For example
>
> Instead of: {do sidju mi lo nu mi zenba lo ni ricfu vau vau vau ui} 
> You can have: {do sidju mi lo nu mi zenba lo ni ricfu vau'u ui}
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">My main argument for it being monosyllabic is that I want =
it to completely supercede {vau} for use with afterthought attitudinals, an=
d so that we can tell beginners "If you want to add attitudinals to the end=
 of a sentence and you don't want it to merely apply to the last thing you =
said, use this", and it'll be correct regardless of how many (if any) bridi=
 the sentence has left open.<div><br></div><div>But fine... I'll add it to =
the jbovlaste for now as {vau'u}.</div><br>On Sunday, May 10, 2015 at 4:04:=
48 PM UTC+8, Spheniscine (la zipcpi) wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding=
-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr">I think it might be useful to have a new cmav=
o, {vau'u}, which is in its own selma'o. It would act as a "super famyma'o =
/ super vau"; acting as any number of {vau}s needed to close off a sentence=
.<div><br></div><div>Why? Attitudinals, mostly; it'd allow adding attitudin=
als as an afterthought, attaching it to the entire sentence rather than the=
 last thing in it. {vau} is sufficient for simple sentences (e.g. {do sidju=
 mi vau ui}), but more complex sentences with subclauses at the end may req=
uire several {vau}, which just feels wrong. For example</div><div><br></div=
><div>Instead of: {do sidju mi lo nu mi zenba lo ni ricfu vau vau vau ui}&n=
bsp;</div><div>You can have: {do sidju mi lo nu mi zenba lo ni ricfu vau'u =
ui}<br></div></div></blockquote></div>

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