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Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Proposal: loi lerfu tcita detri; the final word on
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sa'ai
ki'orgratretretolnidytolsnidu
ki'orgratretretolkemnidysnidu
le'ai


On May 19, 2015 at 10:42:59 AM, Alex Burka (durka42@gmail.com) wrote:

Not a terrible suggestion! What about higher powers, though? Torque is meas=
ured in kg*m^2/s^2 =3D=3D ki'ogratretretolnidytolsnidu? Or ki'ogratretretol=
kemnidysnidu?


On May 19, 2015 at 4:34:34 AM, Spheniscine (la zipcpi) (spheniscine@gmail.c=
om) wrote:

Another idea: define {to'e broda}, where broda is a measurement unit, to me=
an {broda te'ai ni'upa}; i.e. the reciprocal of the unit.

Thus {to'e snidu} =3D s^-1 or Hertz, {to'e mitre} =3D m^-1 or diopter. Phil=
osophical basis is that now these units are no longer measuring length but =
shortness, in time and in space respectively.

So now miles per hour is {lo pi'ai minli to'e cacra}. {pi'ai} may be droppa=
ble from all but the most technical contexts: just assume via convention th=
at when we put two measurement units in a tanru, we intend to multiply them=
. Then we can possibly build the lujvo {minlytolcacra} (though the La Bangu=
 project does want to avoid proliferating lujvo). This possibly fixes the p=
roblem that existing measurement-combination lujvo such as {cacryminli} hav=
e no standard as to how they should be constructed.
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'ai</div> <br> <div id=3D"bloop_sign_1432046742508278016" class=3D"bloop_si=
gn"></div> <br><p class=3D"airmail_on" style=3D"color:#000;">On May 19, 201=
5 at 10:42:59 AM, Alex Burka (<a href=3D"mailto:durka42@gmail.com">durka42@=
gmail.com</a>) wrote:</p> <blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"clean_bq"><spa=
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Not a terrible suggestion! What about higher powers, though? Torque
is measured in kg*m^2/s^2 =3D=3D ki'ogratretretolnidytolsnidu? Or
ki'ogratretretolkemnidysnidu?</div>
<br>
<div id=3D"bloop_sign_1432046169616977920" class=3D"bloop_sign"></div>
<br>
<p class=3D"airmail_on" style=3D"color:#000;">On May 19, 2015 at
4:34:34 AM, Spheniscine (la zipcpi) (<a href=3D"mailto:spheniscine@gmail.co=
m">spheniscine@gmail.com</a>)
wrote:</p>
<blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"clean_bq">
<div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><span>Another idea: define {to'e broda}, where broda
is a measurement unit, to mean {broda te'ai ni'upa}; i.e. the
reciprocal of the unit.</span>
<div><span><br></span></div>
<div><span>Thus {to'e snidu} =3D s^-1 or Hertz, {to'e mitre} =3D m^-1
or diopter. Philosophical basis is that now these units are no
longer measuring length but shortness, in time and in space
respectively.</span></div>
<div><span><br></span></div>
<div><span>So now miles per hour is {lo pi'ai minli to'e cacra}.
{pi'ai} may be droppable from all but the most technical contexts:
just assume via convention that when we put two measurement units
in a tanru, we intend to multiply them. Then we can possibly build
the lujvo {minlytolcacra} (though the La Bangu project does want to
avoid proliferating lujvo). This possibly fixes the problem that
existing measurement-combination lujvo such as {cacryminli} have no
standard as to how they should be constructed.</span></div>
</div>
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