Received: from mail-pa0-f57.google.com ([209.85.220.57]:33751) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1YwFLz-0003zK-3J for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sat, 23 May 2015 12:45:07 -0700 Received: by pablj1 with SMTP id lj1sf12138013pab.0 for ; Sat, 23 May 2015 12:44:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :content-type:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=x5husnBGjuEitJs3CtWAPU+osF1YgtoC7TnNv/Ikd/8=; b=KYmaUuQed247Sd6OIzt1fmkpmkaSM7rk6HWnbYzvo7nW3R73WQdnCS41cVx27lPOY3 P5J2+v4Q1HykBHBqKd6wr3tioz1W/hHtRbdd8LZuV2KSYuwRF5sJQoC4bjdYbmTZPHJo QWYTgkHeigUO2tm41T0kHrBgyCfPUA9+BB+IWkPWZmaZZ9Npie3Gg+YtDufs1lEYBpOv 2SlefaEu6BHvKkg+gPWUo9UMfuzqe3f5HpO+ZHLWyK5ej9N6HjsvMh21gGy0xa4qeWyZ 3aLI8IRdCTAYohMi8wEUc0lB6NAqGWJ2F7LSA7m9lq+Wgl+W9YlGkbrS1L7dFFESyMqz Uodg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :content-type:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=x5husnBGjuEitJs3CtWAPU+osF1YgtoC7TnNv/Ikd/8=; b=LcGX5tkWNBuj08YboH9H+JgzY4H8RQ7Hj1GXqDyE+fJZD5y5L6YFO3hdsL+5SFsILL h2DfiCm1BVo5R5tS5AfLy3x6m8jQVnOa/hG8fQ4O3tqcCDAgIyP8qb8a5xNU2fQk+X3G +Xr65JlqA0fhcLvst5hsqnP+UQ+coXWvXoO2/goB9sxQLExlFQPHyU10tRDCLAeWGXGq nk1XIi7aSooUyEPclIAEAxVkISGkBwtNsD8q5ZL9BnrhVKDHExIteNciUhhNlUy6LRHD Zd0aEf5bLqB2mEACAWkEclu/QBMnx1fBnWJ4BGDSAOZ3UWoWL0NANnLc3Jict9vmCHuV n9Ig== X-Received: by 10.140.37.129 with SMTP id r1mr210616qgr.18.1432410297188; Sat, 23 May 2015 12:44:57 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.104.245 with SMTP id a108ls2371118qgf.76.gmail; Sat, 23 May 2015 12:44:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.96.137 with SMTP id k9mr205893qge.10.1432410296892; Sat, 23 May 2015 12:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 12:44:56 -0700 (PDT) From: la gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <41f64830-f432-451f-84e5-7207f9a764c2@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: <40ba9aa5-c434-4bbf-adf5-f4a62ec3d765@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: LMW no longer optimized for mobile MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_249_1796060017.1432410296375" X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -3.1 (---) X-Spam_score: -3.1 X-Spam_score_int: -30 X-Spam_bar: --- ------=_Part_249_1796060017.1432410296375 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_250_1350563487.1432410296376" ------=_Part_250_1350563487.1432410296376 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Saturday, May 23, 2015 at 6:28:26 PM UTC+3, la gleki wrote: > > > > 2015-05-23 17:59 GMT+03:00 Timothy Lawrence < > timothy.lawrence@connect.qut.edu.au>: > >> 2015-05-23 15:14 GMT+03:00 Timothy Lawrence < >> timothy.lawrence@connect.qut.edu.au>: >> >>> >>> On Friday, May 22, 2015 at 2:05:18 PM UTC+3, la gleki wrote: >>> >>>> this is just a notification that the latest reworkings of the front >>>> page of LMW (mw.lojban.org) made it ugly looking from mobile devices. >>>> >>> >>> The site seems to have a "responsive layout" so just resizing the >>> browser window smaller on desktop shows the problem. I also found a bug: >>> resize the browser window to mobile size, show and hide the menu, expand >>> browser window back to desktop size and now the sidebar menu doesn't show. >>> >> >> Did the MobileFrontend interface show up during your tests like in the >> screenshot above? >> >> >> Sorry, on desktop the top bar doesn't look quite like >> http://imgur.com/aJqUirM but the layout does look similarly >> cramped/broken at very small window sizes. >> > > MobileFrontend tries to detect true mobile devices to disable this > Metrolook skin and to enable its own skin. http://imgur.com/aJqUirM is > done from a real phone (i.e. not browser console emulation) > The current situation is even worse: http://imgur.com/gGP8Y0D I suggest that for devices with such narrow screens the right block is put to the top (so that language changing block can be seen) with news hidden. Or if you need news even on mobile devices then the whole right block can be split into two blocks moving languages to the top (so that new visitors can immediately change to their language) and news to the bottom so they dont distract new visitors with lots of guest-unfriendly unfamiliar information. > -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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On Saturday, May 23, 2015 at 6:28:26 PM UTC+3, la = gleki wrote:
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2015-05-23 17:59 GMT+03:00 Timothy L= awrence <timothy.lawr= ence@connect.qut.edu.au>:
2015-05-23 15:14 GMT+03:00 Timothy Lawrence &= lt;timothy.lawrence@connect.qut.edu.a= u>:


On Friday, May 22, 2015 at 2:05:18 PM UTC+3, la gleki wrote:
this is just a notification that the latest reworkings of = the front page of LMW (mw.lojban.org) made it ugly loo= king from mobile devices.

The site seems to have a "responsive layout" so just resizing the br= owser window smaller on desktop shows the problem. I also found a bug: resi= ze the browser window to mobile size, show and hide the menu, expand browse= r window back to desktop size and now the sidebar menu doesn't show.

Did the MobileFrontend interface show up during your tests like in the scre= enshot above?

Sorry, on desktop the top bar doesn't look quite like http://imgur.com/aJqUirM but the layout does look similarly cramped/bro= ken at very small window sizes.

MobileFrontend tries to detect tru= e mobile devices to disable this Metrolook skin and to enable its own skin.=  http://imgur.com/aJqUirM is done= from a real phone (i.e. not browser console emulation)

The current situation is even worse: h= ttp://imgur.com/gGP8Y0D

I suggest that for devices= with such narrow screens the right block is put to the top (so that langua= ge changing block can be seen) with news hidden.

O= r if you need news even on mobile devices then the whole right block can be= split into two blocks moving languages to the top (so that new visitors ca= n immediately change to their language) and news to the bottom so they dont= distract new visitors with lots of guest-unfriendly unfamiliar information= .


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