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[2a00:1450:400c:c05::231]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gt9si318927wib.2.2015.05.25.01.02.37 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 25 May 2015 01:02:37 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::231 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::231; Received: by mail-wi0-x231.google.com with SMTP id hy4so41352804wic.1 for ; Mon, 25 May 2015 01:02:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.181.13.198 with SMTP id fa6mr29495513wid.41.1432540957712; Mon, 25 May 2015 01:02:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.221.167 with HTTP; Mon, 25 May 2015 01:02:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8091ad7f-077d-47ad-ad43-a10261ac771c@googlegroups.com> References: <64750b8c-dac3-4beb-bf53-841bd6f0cd34@googlegroups.com> <8091ad7f-077d-47ad-ad43-a10261ac771c@googlegroups.com> From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 11:02:17 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: LMW To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043d6489e926b90516e36ec7 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::231 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --f46d043d6489e926b90516e36ec7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2015-05-25 10:30 GMT+03:00 guskant : > > > Le lundi 25 mai 2015 06:57:14 UTC, la gleki a =C3=A9crit : >> >> >> >> 2015-05-25 9:31 GMT+03:00 la gleki : >> >>> >>> >>> On Monday, May 25, 2015 at 8:51:16 AM UTC+3, la gleki wrote: >>>> >>>> It's bothering me more and more how the current HTML/CSS >>>> home-brewed hacks make the front page literally unusable on mobile dev= ices. >>>> When I was owning LMW on the old server I always checked it on mobile >>>> devices and on desktops with different skins. >>>> >>>> I'd like to restore the state of the front page compatible with mobile >>>> devices since 12% of all sessions are done from mobile devices. >>>> >>>> All suggestions to the front page should be first checked in sandbox >>>> pages. >>>> For those who would like inspiration they can look at national >>>> wikipedias. Wikipedias in different languages have front pages with va= rious >>>> mobile-friendly and widescreen-friendly templates. Even minor adaptati= ons >>>> of them can lead us to a better front page. >>>> >>> >>> I suggest doing all drastic changes on test pages. When people involved >>> can confirm that on their devices those test pages are displayed fine t= hen >>> they can be moved to production. >>> >> >> This is how it was today before I came, how it was after I fixed a few >> things (still the logo is not aligned to the center - something to be >> fixed) and how the News page looks like on mobile. >> http://i.imgur.com/0Ee24sG.png >> >> The floating language bar made scrolling and reading the page on Opera >> Mobile almost impossible. Yes, it's much more advanced but ... not >> cross-device friendly. >> >> > gaumi roroi cipra bu'u la sandboks .ije viska sepi'o so'o kibro tutci .i > ku'i na'e lakne fa lo nu roda dezo'u de cipra fi roda poi tutci .iseni'ib= o > .ie xagmau fa lo nu cpedu lo drata lo nu viska la sandboks kei fau lo nu > stika da > > ni'o ku'i gaumi da pu zi ba'o cipra tu'a la'o zoi @media zoi pe cysysy se= i > za'a xamgu .ice'o ba'o vimcu lo jalge bu'u la sandboks ije ba'o stika tu'= a > lo ralju papri .i e'o ge viska ri sepi'o lo fonxa .e lo ganra kibyca'o gi > zgana lo jei lo nuzba ka ganra kei jo'u ka se zvati kei cu xamgu ro da > uanai i ei mi viska ma i xu lo ralju papri i na mabla i ku'i mi pu vimcu lo fulta pe'a ke bangu pagbu i seki'ubo na mablai do pu zukte ma i frica fi ma iji mi bilga lo ka catlu la sandboks i va'i e'o do ciska lo judri be ro lo papri poi ei ma'a catlu ke'a > > >> As for the News page it's not shrinked to the screen but the legacy of >> some Wikipedia templates taken for it still make it readable. >> >> > .i da'i ganai ra noi me zoi @media zoi pe cysysy cu xamgu gi ka'e simsa > galfi la nuzba papri ji'a > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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2015-05-25 10:30 GMT+03:00 guskant <gusni.kantu@gmail.com><= /span>:


Le lundi= 25 mai 2015 06:57:14 UTC, la gleki a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:


2015-05-25 9:31 GMT+03:00 la gleki <= ;gleki.is...@gmail.com>:


On Monday, May 25, 2015 at 8:51:16 A= M UTC+3, la gleki wrote:
It's botherin= g me more and more how the current HTML/CSS home-brewed=C2=A0hacks make the= front page literally unusable on mobile devices. When I was owning LMW on = the old server I always checked it on mobile devices and on desktops with d= ifferent skins.

I'd like to restore the state of the= front page compatible with mobile devices since 12% of all sessions are do= ne from mobile devices.

All suggestions to the fro= nt page should be first checked in sandbox pages.
For those who w= ould like inspiration they can look at national wikipedias. Wikipedias in d= ifferent languages have front pages with various mobile-friendly and widesc= reen-friendly templates. Even minor adaptations of them can lead us to a be= tter front page.

I = suggest doing all drastic changes on test pages. When people involved can c= onfirm that on their devices those test pages are displayed fine then they = can be moved to production.

Thi= s is how it was today before I came, how it was after I fixed a few things = (still the logo is not aligned to the center - something to be fixed) and h= ow the News page looks like on mobile.

The floating language bar made scrolli= ng and reading the page on Opera Mobile almost impossible. Yes, it's mu= ch more advanced but ... not cross-device friendly.


gaumi roroi cipra bu'u la sandboks = .ije viska sepi'o so'o kibro tutci .i ku'i na'e lakne fa lo= nu roda dezo'u de cipra fi roda poi tutci .iseni'ibo .ie xagmau fa= lo nu cpedu lo drata lo nu viska la sandboks kei fau lo nu stika da=C2=A0<= /span>

ni'o= ku'i gaumi da pu zi ba'o cipra tu'a la'o zoi @media zoi pe= cysysy sei za'a xamgu .ice'o ba'o vimcu lo jalge bu'u la s= andboks ije ba'o stika tu'a lo ralju papri .i e'o ge viska ri s= epi'o lo fonxa .e lo ganra kibyca'o gi zgana lo jei lo nuzba ka gan= ra kei jo'u ka se zvati kei cu xamgu ro da=C2=A0

uanai i ei mi viska ma i xu lo ralju papri =C2= =A0i na mabla i ku'i mi pu vimcu lo fulta pe'a ke bangu pagbu i sek= i'ubo na mablai do pu zukte ma i frica fi ma
iji mi bilga lo = ka catlu la sandboks
i va'i e'o do ciska lo judri be ro l= o papri poi ei ma'a catlu ke'a


=C2=A0=
As for the News page it's not shrin= ked to the screen but the legacy of some Wikipedia templates taken for it s= till make it readable.


.i da'i ganai ra noi me=C2=A0zoi @media zoi pe cysysy cu xamgu gi ka&#= 39;e simsa galfi la nuzba papri ji'a

= =C2=A0

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