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la'o me. Michael Everson .me cusku di'e
> Hello, everyone. I am back.
>
> This is the 150th anniversary of the publication of Alice and I=E2=80=99d
> like to move forward with the project. To do that, I=E2=80=99d like to as=
k if
> anyone would like to volunteer to work with me.
>
> The goal is to experiment slightly, producing an Alice with
> =E2=80=9CVictorian=E2=80=9D typographic principles. Proper names will be =
written with
> capital letters. Stressed vowels (rare in that text) will have the
> acute accent. Guillemets will go along with particles to indicate
> citation. Full stops will be moved from the beginning of sentences
> (marked with capital letters) to the end.

A bunch of people have experimented with this kind of typography. But=20
how do you intend to handle the first letter of each sentence? In=20
Lojban, pretty much every sentence begins with {.i}, so capitalizing the=20
"i" looks weird, but capitalizing the next word instead also does.

> I need someone to help me deal with questions concerning nested
> quotation, and narrative structure where the narrator interjects into
> a quotation. The particle =E2=80=9Csei" starts a metalinguistic discourse=
;
> what ends one?

In both Alice and Oz, {sei}-clauses are always enclosed in em-dashes.=20
For some reason the online version of Alice at http://alis.lojban.org/=20
doesn't render the em-dashes, but they are there.

Oz uses the same style (http://selpahi.de/oz_plain.html), e.g. search=20
for this passage to see it all come together:

ni'o =C2=ABlu lo vilcarbi'e ti muvdu doi .em. =E2=80=94sei xy fi lo speni c=
u cladu=20
cusku=E2=80=94 .i mi ba kurji lo danlu li'u=C2=BB .i ba bo bajra fa'a lo ta=
'ozda noi=20
lo bakni jo'u lo xirma cu se setca fi ke'a

I recall you being against that placement of =C2=AB with respect to {lu}, i=
s=20
that correct?

mi'e la selpa'i mu'o

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