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Subject: Re: [lojban] {la .alis.} book
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On 26 May 2015, at 21:00, selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de> wrote:

> A bunch of people have experimented with this kind of typography. But how=
 do you intend to handle the first letter of each sentence? In Lojban, pret=
ty much every sentence begins with {.i}, so capitalizing the "i" looks weir=
d, but capitalizing the next word instead also does.

I=E2=80=99ll capitalize the first word of each sentence, even if it is =E2=
=80=9CI=E2=80=9D.=20

>> I need someone to help me deal with questions concerning nested
>> quotation, and narrative structure where the narrator interjects into
>> a quotation. The particle =E2=80=9Csei" starts a metalinguistic discours=
e;
>> what ends one?
>=20
> In both Alice and Oz, {sei}-clauses are always enclosed in em-dashes. For=
 some reason the online version of Alice at http://alis.lojban.org/ doesn't=
 render the em-dashes, but they are there.

What ends a sei-clause? Or, what ends a sei-clause when the interpolation c=
omes in the middle of one sentence? =E2=80=9CGive me,=E2=80=9D John said, =
=E2=80=9Ca reason to go home."

> Oz uses the same style (http://selpahi.de/oz_plain.html), e.g. search for=
 this passage to see it all come together:
>=20
> ni'o =C2=ABlu lo vilcarbi'e ti muvdu doi .em. =E2=80=94sei xy fi lo speni=
 cu cladu cusku=E2=80=94 .i mi ba kurji lo danlu li'u=C2=BB .i ba bo bajra =
fa'a lo ta'ozda noi lo bakni jo'u lo xirma cu se setca fi ke=E2=80=99a

Most of the closing em-dashes in Oz precede .i or precede li=E2=80=99u.. bu=
t here

Ni=E2=80=99o lu =C2=ABUo =E2=80=94sei la Alis cu pensi=E2=80=94 mi ba lo nu=
 farlu tai ti cu ba na xanka lo nu farlu fo lo serti.=20

=E2=80=9CWell!=E2=80=9D thought Alice to herself. =E2=80=9CAfter such a fal=
l as this, I shall think nothing of tumbling down-stairs!

What=E2=80=99s; happening here? Is the position of a closing em-dash predic=
table?

> I recall you being against that placement of =C2=AB with respect to {lu},=
 is that correct?

Yes, because in performance, it seems to me that =E2=80=9Clu/li=E2=80=99u=
=E2=80=9D would be in the voice of the narrator, while what is between the =
quotation marks would be in the voice of the character.=20

Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/

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