Received: from mail-la0-f59.google.com ([209.85.215.59]:33231) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1YxYDo-0003RC-KX for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 27 May 2015 03:06:05 -0700 Received: by lamq1 with SMTP id q1sf1180981lam.0 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 03:05:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=HZWNli+jZgmhiTKPm4RIdk/Q23l3gnqFx+4BjGKVMWI=; b=Zru7/6RQMRo6Or7qVMW0m+Sm4HXmyMj+RLHShs4sa3BSHa7pQ+wEJ3S6NWGtFpdy2c 8HC3iNAa1lJVu5zJFeDr/fxlIa507uWEZwx0iVg0foncZ6vpKJB6lrZJRrvRNAvZ0ey0 c0Cbzh0WdvGOBGNh2OiCb8YJlZLpr3/XmnCk1Wg8oOwagvyPJBtD5tiQnLeuQ/9HXUTT ZCksM0SiPuaP/mOdhRovHtVbEKJ/7asKLiw39OvFhRtXDigyuKSh+qpbjohDwqKVJA+1 inA9RiX7YrD7Qoz/6MywIthS5QJjKdI3pTN51Yp3dvt4Q1EnQBBg5AFYwjzpClOEVBGe yreQ== X-Received: by 10.152.207.9 with SMTP id ls9mr322826lac.16.1432720575377; Wed, 27 May 2015 02:56:15 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.21.230 with SMTP id y6ls23642lae.20.gmail; Wed, 27 May 2015 02:56:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.112.118.162 with SMTP id kn2mr31788126lbb.22.1432720574551; Wed, 27 May 2015 02:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wg0-x231.google.com (mail-wg0-x231.google.com. [2a00:1450:400c:c00::231]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p12si86563wiv.1.2015.05.27.02.56.14 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 27 May 2015 02:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of and.rosta@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::231 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c00::231; Received: by mail-wg0-x231.google.com with SMTP id z8so4629961wge.0 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 02:56:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.82.38 with SMTP id f6mr54968770wjy.16.1432720574420; Wed, 27 May 2015 02:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.27.170.193 with HTTP; Wed, 27 May 2015 02:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.27.170.193 with HTTP; Wed, 27 May 2015 02:56:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1668540.L6pQx4xKKk@caracal> <9248C4CE-DAAE-4BB4-8A28-C6C579472035@evertype.com> Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 10:56:14 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] {la .alis.} book From: And Rosta To: lojban@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bf0bfc2e69c5f05170d40c3 X-Original-Sender: and.rosta@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of and.rosta@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::231 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=and.rosta@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --047d7bf0bfc2e69c5f05170d40c3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 27 May 2015 10:07, "Gleki Arxokuna" wrote: > > Personally I have in my ToDo updating the translation to make it easier to read by using less complex words and constructs. Replacing all other lujvo by zei lujvo would make it easier to discern the component parts but would make the text harder to read because of increasing verbosity and monotony. To my mind, a reader coming across an unfamiliar lujvo should look it up in the dictionary, and shouldn't rely on guessing the meaning from the lujvo's derivational components. --And. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --047d7bf0bfc2e69c5f05170d40c3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8


On 27 May 2015 10:07, "Gleki Arxokuna" <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Personally I have in my ToDo updating the translation to make it easier to read by using less complex words and constructs.

Replacing all other lujvo by zei lujvo would make it easier to discern the component parts but would make the text harder to read because of increasing verbosity and monotony.

To my mind, a reader coming across an unfamiliar lujvo should look it up in the dictionary, and shouldn't rely on guessing the meaning from the lujvo's derivational components.

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