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Subject: Re: [lojban] {la .alis.} book
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On 27 May 2015, at 10:06, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@GMAIL.COM> wrote=
:

>> 2015-05-26 22:33 GMT+03:00 Michael Everson <everson@evertype.com>:
>> I need someone to help me deal with questions concerning nested quotatio=
n, and narrative structure where the narrator interjects into a quotation. =
The particle =E2=80=9Csei" starts a metalinguistic discourse; what ends one=
?
>=20
> In short, the selbri (main verb) itself closes it by the virtue of how it=
s grammar works. You may see something similar for {lo} in {lo broda} and s=
imilar constructs that in 90% of cases doesn't need any terminators (marker=
s of the end of constructs).

A few years ago I pointed out that punctuating and capitalizing Lojban in t=
he usual way did not change the language because it was just decorating the=
 text in various ways; if read aloud there should be no difference. (Same a=
s for writing Lojban in Tengwar.)

If the se=E2=80=99u were present, or if whatever followed the=20

> However, I'd prefer not nesting {sei}-clauses inside {lu ... li'u} quotes=
 since otherwise if you do want to quote a {sei}-clause you are left with u=
glier ways of doing so.

"On this point,=E2=80=9D said Michael, "I very much agree.=E2=80=9D

"On this point, I very much agree,=E2=80=9D said Michael.

I think given the structure a good translation for Lojban should avoid thes=
e kinds of breaks. Easier for performance (reading aloud with character and=
 narrator voices), too.=20

> Also since probably this project aims at selling books I'd prefer replaci=
ng all compound words (lujvo) not in the dictionary with their expanded for=
ms to make the reading easier for people still not fluent in Lojban.

One doubts that a Lojban Alice will sell as well as a Latin one. I can say =
I have often looked things up and not found them in the dictionary. Includi=
ng very short particles. And in one of the dictionaries I have, =E2=80=9Cmi=
=E2=80=9D is listed on its own at the end of all the words beginning in mi-=
. That was odd, or an error, I guess.=20

> As for =E2=80=9CVictorian=E2=80=9D typographic principles those are IMO c=
ompatible with Lojban.

Would you like to help with the project? Including possibly =E2=80=9Cregula=
rizing=E2=80=9D the text as suggested above? De-compounding compounds? Rest=
oring balance in terms of =E2=80=9Cse=E2=80=99u=E2=80=9Ds?

Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/

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