Received: from mail-wi0-f184.google.com ([209.85.212.184]:34462) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1YxbVW-0007NF-8A for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 27 May 2015 06:36:35 -0700 Received: by wibbw19 with SMTP id bw19sf4380601wib.1 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 06:36:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=+Hh3TeUVTPc/usHaYOlJ/WImnr4wkLwqvWwDZii/sQ4=; b=VzQmX6wefRh9j5Z7nZpVgxUE4Ee/HAFFFXaRuSxhjUaV8Qfbe1+1QDq9keL3l+A+C1 vCqWII05Mj9Kyq+IfIkN1vlTAzTfNG9JszCLyAgzjM8KJNyl89jP6XIea/rEP1PL7WL4 UxwRizcbwWkGqootH29cZKirmwZUipnqFZ4MqJ6JZNnP/thIB2lhGbPjWhpTyIYCLD22 WaWTBpw3lTlzaVy+BYEYWvp4VeaDXSTwhu/VMQ1RRQF+mopLEct82cvDqig7z0Y7UeZG fwhzcj10OcA8jEWpDri3/Lt8BlgoRslMD8hCbsxrBfHmyLcE7Z5n/uqV0Plehd8d9XCy GO3g== X-Received: by 10.180.20.105 with SMTP id m9mr16871wie.17.1432733783463; Wed, 27 May 2015 06:36:23 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.7.136 with SMTP id j8ls881525wia.22.canary; Wed, 27 May 2015 06:36:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.180.19.72 with SMTP id c8mr28386617wie.2.1432733783109; Wed, 27 May 2015 06:36:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net. [212.227.15.18]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u10si700975wif.1.2015.05.27.06.36.23 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 27 May 2015 06:36:23 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.15.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=212.227.15.18; Received: from [192.168.2.118] ([84.137.94.107]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MYwyp-1YbrlN2mup-00VjvQ for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 15:36:22 +0200 Message-ID: <5565C857.4020702@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 15:36:23 +0200 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] {la .alis.} book References: <1668540.L6pQx4xKKk@caracal> <9248C4CE-DAAE-4BB4-8A28-C6C579472035@evertype.com> <2A580ECF-BBF0-43E3-8C95-2ADF1CF8A532@evertype.com> In-Reply-To: <2A580ECF-BBF0-43E3-8C95-2ADF1CF8A532@evertype.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:8tyLuYEnHrfNJDnQRY9Ky5LomjlJWD+piiQLr4YAle5sUjaeV3J H5jRqrTbmiumbpNuttQda1YIy/lbns5zJTfq7rSQ+JBCl3QXDe7xsafWX7nGOumTZJJYDFz cdMXHEyFrqb1WG75yqo08MkoJOG3pp2UGpAlENtG6App9LID8qVSRD4RmJUHCrEqmsyRlEW C6O3o05/JkV8xUMcfMlWw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.15.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - la'o me. Michael Everson .me cusku di'e > I think given the structure a good translation for Lojban should > avoid these kinds of breaks. Easier for performance (reading aloud > with character and narrator voices), too. One question: If you care so much about making the text easier to read aloud, why are you removing all the mandatory glottal stops (i.e. the dots)? Without them, the narrator (performer) is likely to not pronounce them at least for certain cmevla, because you first have to see the entire word and make sure it ends in a consonant to know that you have the pronounce the glottal stop (or pause) before the word (and after it, but that's easier). I understand why you don't want to use dots to mark the glottal stops, but maybe you could use another symbol. mi'e la selpa'i mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.