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Michael Everson, On 27/05/2015 14:56:
> On 27 May 2015, at 14:36, selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de> wrote:
>
>> One question: If you care so much about making the text easier to read a=
loud, why are you removing all the mandatory glottal stops (i.e. the dots)?=
 Without them, the narrator (performer) is likely to not pronounce them at =
least for certain cmevla, because you first have to see the entire word and=
 make sure it ends in a consonant to know that you have the pronounce the g=
lottal stop (or pause) before the word (and after it, but that's easier). I=
 understand why you don't want to use dots to mark the glottal stops, but m=
aybe you could use another symbol.
>
> Well, a glottal stop is a consonant, and a pause is a pause.

And both phonetically realize phoneme /./.

Michael Everson, On 27/05/2015 14:13:
> I lu =E2=80=9CFi la=E2=80=99e di=E2=80=99u,=E2=80=9D sei la Maikl pu cusk=
u, =E2=80=9Cmi so=E2=80=99i va=E2=80=99e tugni=E2=80=9D li=E2=80=99u.
>
> But the problem again here is that for consistency (and automation) one w=
ould expect:
>
> I lu =E2=80=9CFi la=E2=80=99e di=E2=80=99u,=E2=80=9D sei la Maikl pu cusk=
u se'u, =E2=80=9Cmi so=E2=80=99i va=E2=80=99e tugni=E2=80=9D li=E2=80=99u.
>
> Wouldn=E2=80=99t one?

But why would one expect consistency with regard to a grammatical feature t=
hat is expressly variable? A rough analogy from English is the omissibility=
 of _that_ from the start of complement clauses (e.g. "He knows (that) she =
is"): what lunatic would 'regularize' an English text by restoring every om=
itted _that_? And would you make overt *every* covert terminator?

--And.

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