Received: from mail-lb0-f187.google.com ([209.85.217.187]:34180) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Yy68f-0003pk-Pw for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 28 May 2015 15:19:04 -0700 Received: by lbdu14 with SMTP id u14sf19090245lbd.1 for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 15:18:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=tQAiCTtPfdIGakzZV3L2VW5gKj+uQLuQrSGbcInCGC4=; b=Htc/ZYLa4J1kBwMzHDG8vKQFFQMDl8W7CxV8xU8FO6pTso8pxqrY+4RjJwncgk/JKV MxquUzDkFXc6J7h09NpwHS7dstEKwiQKNECKiu3LnTzjLa+UK2hUelpVqPRd7hlJrllU b+/V4qP7mvKjEJdEIGNlwZrTU+9HM3+elUZlTua0TeKaSsjnhkf1Odk3AlULgkjDU2Be iCIf5HK50rOmEcJLPXSXM/2uIt/mDAQN8oHgOH33yohNsnaMiWfcRa28y4oWvZS44RPW hUnQUn2BCw2X18baaHYpupPY05F1IV8/cTlVI5WXx9q+tBoI19ElkErDqRF0opfPdcav ms4w== X-Received: by 10.152.239.138 with SMTP id vs10mr84998lac.10.1432851530647; Thu, 28 May 2015 15:18:50 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.22.99 with SMTP id c3ls246829laf.96.gmail; Thu, 28 May 2015 15:18:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.112.161.105 with SMTP id xr9mr4523274lbb.20.1432851530015; Thu, 28 May 2015 15:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wg0-x22b.google.com (mail-wg0-x22b.google.com. [2a00:1450:400c:c00::22b]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gt9si3077wib.2.2015.05.28.15.18.49 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 28 May 2015 15:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::22b as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c00::22b; Received: by mail-wg0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id e6so47865859wgm.2 for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 15:18:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.179.200 with SMTP id di8mr9371162wjc.56.1432851529919; Thu, 28 May 2015 15:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.27.26.17 with HTTP; Thu, 28 May 2015 15:18:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <471E8D58-43C0-4B8A-97E3-927640DF9D89@evertype.com> References: <1668540.L6pQx4xKKk@caracal> <9248C4CE-DAAE-4BB4-8A28-C6C579472035@evertype.com> <2A580ECF-BBF0-43E3-8C95-2ADF1CF8A532@evertype.com> <5565C857.4020702@gmx.de> <5565E5EC.6030308@gmail.com> <5566038E.6030201@gmail.com> <471E8D58-43C0-4B8A-97E3-927640DF9D89@evertype.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 19:18:49 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] {la .alis.} book From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f6468c974f1a105172bbede X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::22b as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --e89a8f6468c974f1a105172bbede Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 7:05 PM, Michael Everson wrote: > > Well, it does make it impossible to apply punctuation automatically, sinc= e > the only way that one could do so is to have a script that would parse a > variable-lengths string following =E2=80=9Csei=E2=80=9D to find the word = of the selbri > class. Not that the application of punctuation is a goal of Lojban. > Strictly speaking, you can't do that with "lu" and "li'u" either. For example, in "zo lu .e zo li'u valsi", "lu" and "li'u" are not quoting anything, so an automatic punctuator that didn't know how to parse the sentence would get it wrong. Admittedly you probably won't find many such cases in practice. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --e89a8f6468c974f1a105172bbede Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 7:05 PM, Michael Everson <= everson@evertype.= com> wrote:

Well, it does make it impossible to apply punctuation automatically,= since the only way that one could do so is to have a script that would par= se a variable-lengths string following =E2=80=9Csei=E2=80=9D to find the wo= rd of the selbri class. Not that the application of punctuation is a goal o= f Lojban.

Strictly speaking, you can= 9;t do that with "lu" and "li'u" either. For exampl= e, in "zo lu .e zo li'u valsi", "lu" and "li&#= 39;u" are not quoting anything, so an automatic punctuator that didn&#= 39;t know how to parse the sentence would get it wrong. Admittedly you prob= ably won't find many such cases in practice.

m= u'o mi'e xorxes
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