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[78.137.164.59]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t6si378596wiz.0.2015.05.31.07.41.47 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 31 May 2015 07:41:47 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of everson@evertype.com designates 78.137.164.59 as permitted sender) client-ip=78.137.164.59; Received: from [37.228.241.140] (port=50614 helo=[192.168.0.10]) by lh19.dnsireland.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1Yz4Qq-0002Ki-MV for lojban@googlegroups.com; Sun, 31 May 2015 15:41:44 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [lojban] {la .alis.} book From: Michael Everson In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 15:41:47 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1EA5B50F-CA6A-411C-8651-E8C53AE89104@evertype.com> References: <1668540.L6pQx4xKKk@caracal> <9248C4CE-DAAE-4BB4-8A28-C6C579472035@evertype.com> <2A580ECF-BBF0-43E3-8C95-2ADF1CF8A532@evertype.com> <5565C857.4020702@gmx.de> <5565E5EC.6030308@gmail.com> <5566038E.6030201@gmail.com> <471E8D58-43C0-4B8A-97E3-927640DF9D89@evertype.com> To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - lh19.dnsireland.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - googlegroups.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - evertype.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: lh19.dnsireland.com: authenticated_id: everson+evertype.com/only user confirmed/virtual account not confirmed X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Original-Sender: everson@evertype.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of everson@evertype.com designates 78.137.164.59 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=everson@evertype.com; dkim=policy (weak key) header.i=@evertype.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-Spam_score: -3.0 X-Spam_score_int: -29 X-Spam_bar: --- On 28 May 2015, at 23:18, Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas wrote: >> Well, it does make it impossible to apply punctuation automatically, sin= ce the only way that one could do so is to have a script that would parse a= variable-lengths string following =E2=80=9Csei=E2=80=9D to find the word o= f the selbri class. Not that the application of punctuation is a goal of Lo= jban. >=20 > Strictly speaking, you can't do that with "lu" and "li'u" either. For exa= mple, in "zo lu .e zo li'u valsi=E2=80=9D, Which means what? I don=E2=80=99t read Lojban. (I don=E2=80=99t read Zulu e= ither, but I published =E2=80=9CU-Alice Ezweni Lezimanga=E2=80=9D.) As far as I can tell you=E2=80=99ve written =E2=80=9C=E2=80=98e=E2=80=99=E2= =80=9D or something like that.=20 > "lu" and "li'u" are not quoting anything, so an automatic punctuator that= didn't know how to parse the sentence would get it wrong. Admittedly you p= robably won't find many such cases in practice. Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/ --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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