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Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Proposal: loi lerfu tcita detri; the final word on
 the problem of dates and times?
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No problem, if you manage to convince us of that we can just define a new
{li}-alike that takes an arbitrary number of digit strings & lerfu strings
and glues them together :)
On May 31, 2015 8:33 AM, "Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas" <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote=
:

>
>
> On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 9:22 AM, la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Disadvantages:
>> a. Like it's {pi'e} equivalent it's not a predicate language. An
>> expansion of these rules into predicates is needed for linguistic purpos=
es
>> no matter how verbose the expansion will be (i.e. its value for everyday
>> usage is irrelevant). {citsi} also has to be explained in this expansion
>> since it is one of the few "splicing time interval" brivla. relations li=
ke
>> {ca}/date, {ze'a}/period are to be explained.
>> b. Those are new rules injected into the language. Multiplying entities
>> is usually not good. Although they actually make {pi'e} solution not nee=
ded
>> so in total the required part of the language becomes less heavy.
>> c. timezone can't be easily specified inside {de'i} using names of
>> countries.
>>
>
> d. It will break down if (and hopefully when) digit strings become
> disentangled from letter strings.
>
> mu'o mi'e xorxes
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<p dir=3D"ltr">No problem, if you manage to convince us of that we can just=
 define a new {li}-alike that takes an arbitrary number of digit strings &a=
mp; lerfu strings and glues them together :)</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On May 31, 2015 8:33 AM, &quot;Jorge Llamb=C3=AD=
as&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jjllambias@gmail.com">jjllambias@gmail.com</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On=
 Sun, May 31, 2015 at 9:22 AM, la gleki <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gleki.is.my.name@gmail.c=
om</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><di=
v>Disadvantages:</div><div>a. Like it&#39;s {pi&#39;e} equivalent it&#39;s =
not a predicate language. An expansion of these rules into predicates is ne=
eded for linguistic purposes no matter how verbose the expansion will be (i=
.e. its value for everyday usage is irrelevant). {citsi} also has to be exp=
lained in this expansion since it is one of the few &quot;splicing time int=
erval&quot; brivla. relations like {ca}/date, {ze&#39;a}/period are to be e=
xplained.</div><div>b. Those are new rules injected into the language. Mult=
iplying entities is usually not good. Although they actually make {pi&#39;e=
} solution not needed so in total the required part of the language becomes=
 less heavy.</div><div>c. timezone can&#39;t be easily specified inside {de=
&#39;i} using names of countries.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><d=
iv>d. It will break down if (and hopefully when) digit strings become disen=
tangled from letter strings.</div><div><br></div><div>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xor=
xes</div></div></div></div>

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