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Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 14:51:05 -0300
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Proposal: loi lerfu tcita detri; the final word on
 the problem of dates and times?
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On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Spheniscine (la zipcpi) <
spheniscine@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've not heard of that proposal. Wouldn't that just break all uses of {xy
> pa} when talking about the definitions of words?
>

Those are "xy xi pa".

The contexts where we don't want digits and lerfu to mix (e.g. ".abu za'u
re'u cusku", "by re mei", "lo re bolci zo'u pa by xunre .i je pa by blanu",
"xy xi pa dunda xy xi re xy xi ci" etc. are much much more common than the
need for mixed strings, and having to use "boi" for those is a pain.

Besides, {me'o} still works, paralleling the use of strings for entry of
> ISO dates in programming languages. I just prefer {li} because
>
>    - It's shorter
>    - Dates and periods technically *are* numbers in a certain sense;
>    arithmetic can be performed on them, despite the fact that in some ways
>    they don't act like real-numbers, due to the varying length of months and
>    years.
>
> "me'o" and "li" are in the same selma'o, so the issue is the same for both.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Spheniscine (la zipcpi) <span dir=3D"l=
tr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spheniscine@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">sphenisc=
ine@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div =
dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;ve not heard of that proposal. Wouldn&#39;t that just bre=
ak all uses of {xy pa} when talking about the definitions of words?=C2=A0</=
div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Those are &quot;xy xi pa&quot;.</div><=
div><br></div><div>The contexts where we don&#39;t want digits and lerfu to=
 mix (e.g. &quot;.abu za&#39;u re&#39;u cusku&quot;, &quot;by re mei&quot;,=
 &quot;lo re bolci zo&#39;u pa by xunre .i je pa by blanu&quot;, &quot;xy x=
i pa dunda xy xi re xy xi ci&quot; etc. are much much more common than the =
need for mixed strings, and having to use &quot;boi&quot; for those is a pa=
in.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><di=
v>Besides, {me&#39;o} still works, paralleling the use of strings for entry=
 of ISO dates in programming languages. I just prefer {li} because</div><di=
v><ul><li><span style=3D"line-height:normal">It&#39;s shorter</span></li><l=
i><span style=3D"line-height:normal">Dates and periods technically *are* nu=
mbers in a certain sense; arithmetic can be performed on them, despite the =
fact that in some ways they don&#39;t act like real-numbers, due to the var=
ying length of months and years.</span></li></ul></div></div></blockquote><=
div>&quot;me&#39;o&quot; and &quot;li&quot; are in the same selma&#39;o, so=
 the issue is the same for both.</div><div><br></div><div>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e=
 xorxes</div><div><br></div></div></div></div>

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