Received: from mail-wg0-f64.google.com ([74.125.82.64]:33109) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Yz7e8-0007oA-Qh for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 31 May 2015 11:07:47 -0700 Received: by wggy19 with SMTP id y19sf34547460wgg.0 for ; Sun, 31 May 2015 11:07:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=wlM0T5ad2SZ1C9GOulLAPvR7/4U7zwEKr/QI29R/wSQ=; b=S96TvdUbmCmwdxkgelwpkutC99Nhe613oHe2NIFK4xWlGyvLG5Y/39ztKF8C2TDYv9 zPOIuB3wOfP6Y0R6ANEZjoxr9BzbjHc/XLP15tulTaAIapyMI7+zBq0yYQ7vsxCe3VaO bQ+UGbfEB7SyZEM3NeaqeR4Z3M5hlIsd6PB19+nMDt76/8ardgXt8t8ufyW2j4TCNrkh Oq2GTgw/SJn8TPr8kEdQeUkQK+h97OwOg3z149PEYac6EdNIbsn5cU7Zjkan8HjbrNdS 3oUS2XBbNlJ4MMNfd2XsTJOBTFXfQEgwfn27B42UGgRguiDtGzWD2No4YBjeRu2qvJK1 e45w== X-Received: by 10.180.73.239 with SMTP id o15mr14287wiv.8.1433095644201; Sun, 31 May 2015 11:07:24 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.109.230 with SMTP id hv6ls111138wib.28.canary; Sun, 31 May 2015 11:07:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.194.58.164 with SMTP id s4mr636698wjq.3.1433095643889; Sun, 31 May 2015 11:07:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x232.google.com (mail-wi0-x232.google.com. [2a00:1450:400c:c05::232]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gt9si387473wib.2.2015.05.31.11.07.23 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 31 May 2015 11:07:23 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::232 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::232; Received: by mail-wi0-x232.google.com with SMTP id o1so79316069wiz.1 for ; Sun, 31 May 2015 11:07:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.103.2 with SMTP id fs2mr34340964wjb.151.1433095643816; Sun, 31 May 2015 11:07:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.27.26.17 with HTTP; Sun, 31 May 2015 11:07:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5b024e4f-ca63-4c0b-96fe-68f003b49963@googlegroups.com> References: <21d0528e-7ece-41ca-a9e3-f57b22cc3f43@googlegroups.com> <5b024e4f-ca63-4c0b-96fe-68f003b49963@googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 15:07:23 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Proposal: loi lerfu tcita detri; the final word on the problem of dates and times? From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e010d84a8c769ea05176494dc X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::232 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-Spam_score: -3.0 X-Spam_score_int: -29 X-Spam_bar: --- --089e010d84a8c769ea05176494dc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Spheniscine (la zipcpi) < spheniscine@gmail.com> wrote: > >> "me'o" and "li" are in the same selma'o, so the issue is the same for >> both. >> > > Under your proposal they wouldn't (or at least shouldn't) be, because me'o > is used for arbitrary character strings. How else will you be able to spell > out a password like "utT53fpB"? > You can use the lerfu "mu bu" and "ci bu". mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --089e010d84a8c769ea05176494dc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Spheniscine (la zipcpi) <sphenisc= ine@gmail.com> wrote:

"me'o" and &qu= ot;li" are in the same selma'o, so the issue is the same for both.=

Under your propos= al they wouldn't (or at least shouldn't) be, because me'o is us= ed for arbitrary character strings. How else will you be able to spell out = a password like "utT53fpB"?

You can use the lerfu "mu bu" and "ci bu".=C2=A0=

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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